• ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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      You do recognize that things are different than they were a few years ago, right?

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        When? There was genocide under biden, under obama, under clinton, under reagan, under kennedy not to mention the rehabilitation of top nazis generals and scientists into nato and nasa

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          There was genocide under biden, under obama, under clinton, under reagan, under kennedy

          (Citation needed)

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            The palestinian genocide for instance has been ongoing since 1948 (and before, but 1948 is of course where it kicked into overdrice) and all the US presidents are complicit in not just aiding it via material and political means, but they could have stopped it because “iSSrael” functionally ceases to exist the moment yankeeland decides to pull the plug.

            The genocide of the indigenous americans is ongoing since before the inception of the liberal regime as it’s own entity. It continues to this day by excluding natives from healthcare, confining them to reserves while simultaneously restricting their access to public infrastructure. Indigenous people needing yankee education in order to gain employment and various other restrictions that get justified in a liberal framework, but practically further the erosion of indigenous culture.

            There are various genocides across the world carried out by the yankee stormtroopers more directly in places like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and some more indirectly by aiding terrorist groups and regimes like saudi arabia, al-qaeda, various african terrorist orgs meant to destabilise the region and break it open for western exploitation.

            readsettlers.org

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              Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA.

              Americans did genocide the native people of this continent. Must be Obama’s fault in 2008.

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                Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA and somehow USA still sells arms to someone in somewhere else because business is business.

                We only sell the guns (even to terrorist organizations), tanks and military jets, so… we are not responsible for the guns being used for bad things…

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                  We sell guns to a lot of people. Should we be the world police and say what they can do with the stuff they bought from us? How do you feel about the US limiting the range and targets of the HIMARS systems we sent to Ukraine early in the war?

                  For the record, I absolutely agree that any aid provided by the USA to Israel should be conditional, and we should severely limit the types of weapons and systems sent there.

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                What did Obama do to stop it? You do understand the indigenous genocide is ongoing right? What did Obama do to stop the genocide of the palestinians? You understand that anything pissrael does can be blamed on the yanks because they’re the ones bankrolling and arming this so-called “country”?

                How does this keep happening: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/20/kuhner-how-obama-arms-al-qaeda/

                And yes any genocide on this globe that has been carried out for almost the last 100 years has been done with yanKKKee weapons. Where do these terrorists keep getting the funding, the arms?? Why is it that the countries these terrorists keep terrorising end up as US vassals?

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                  Ah yes, an opinion piece written by a notably not histrionic or atangonist little right wing radio commentator who became a US citizen in (checks notes) 2016, Jeff Kuhner.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Kuhner

                  You should definitely read the articles and consider the source before you post them as fact.

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    nazis literally based the design of the holocaust on the american genocides and reservation system.

    they taught the nazis how to nazi.

    they just arent as subtle about it anymore.

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      That’s a lot of learning from the British Empire too then.

      And from that other moustached Austrian/German, Ed Bernays, on how to sell the genocide to the public. Top “advertising or marketing” [“crystalizing public opinion”/“manufacturing consent”] you got there, USA.

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    Wait till you learn where the nazis got the idea for concentration camps from…

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    entering? we were alway in the nazi phase, they were just figuring how to make it look appealable for decades. us is the most right wing of all western countries, thats why nazis from other countries flock to the states.

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    Just looked this up recently.

    estimate populate of the new world right before Columbus: 50-100 mil

    Estimate population of Europe at the same time: 60 mil.

    Granted it was mostly due to disease, but to Europeans that was just a happy accident.

    And unlike nazi Germany, the colonists didn’t do a 180 after a decade or so, they kept that shit going until today.

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      The most recent estimates are between 2.5 and 7 million people in the area now covered by the US and Canada. The areas further south were a lot more populated.

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        interestingly, the descendants of native americans in the US today are still around the same number (3% of US population or about 10 million) which is largely because of industrial agriculture -> more food

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      The nazi didn’t “do a 180” out of good will. They were forced to stop. In America we see what happens when there is no one to stop them.

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    Correction: use present perfect. You’re not witnessing it, you have witnessed it. The “Why didn’t the Germans do something about the nazis?” phase ended in November of 2024.

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        Not just idiots. They are complicit. They had a big button in front of them that said “Do Not Put A Nazi In The Big Chair”, but they didn’t push it because it was blue and not green, and now they have a nazi in the big chair.

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          There were two buttons and they both said “Put A Nazi In The Chair”

          Voting isn’t going to get rid of the fascism problem in the US.

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            Biden and Harris were both very bad, neither were Nazis. People like you are literally the problem

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                Americans act as the world police : people are mad about it.

                Americans don’t act as the world police : people are mad about it.

                Make up your fucking minds.

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                  This is entirely ignorant of the fact that Israel is essentially a US military base. If the US wasn’t involved, Israel would have rightly ceased to exist a long time ago.

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                You had the opportunity to find out. But the petulant single issue voters didn’t want imperfection, so they chose to not prevent Trump from getting put in the big chair. So, how has your choice contributed to stopping the genocide in Gaza?

                (I know you don’t want to acknowledge the answer, and I’ve heard the usual deflections, so don’t even bother replying)

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                  So, how has your choice contributed to stopping the genocide in Gaza?

                  My choice doesn’t fucking matter. I live in Alabama. My vote never counted in the first place.

                  You think you live in a democracy despite all evidence.

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    I’d say it’s more of its neoconfederate phase. Turns out leaving a seditious rotten core as part of your government isn’t a good idea. But hey, at least you are now indivisible with fascism.

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      Oh, yup.

      I just made a reply mentioning paperclip, because a search suggested no one had mentioned it yet… I just hadnt scrolled down enough yet.

      Thank you for mentioning operation paperclip

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        you could radicalize so so many people by just giving them a basic history of what the west ACTUALLY did after ww2 and how little they wanted to actually stop germany before it started. really contextualizes current day