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Elon: The actual number of moves that are not utterly stupid in chess is tiny and chess will be fully solved one day

Chess.com: Skill issue

Elon: Chess is hard for humans, but not for computers. One day, it will be fully solved like checkers. Between now and then, or even after, have fun. People enjoy may games/sports where machines are vastly better.

Chess.com: There are more possible chess games, by about 40 order of magnitude, than atoms in the observable universe. To solve chess, you’d have to map them all. Good luck.

Elon: Wrong, all legal chess positions are ~40 ooms less than the estimated atoms in the Universe. And ASI will figure out ways to solve and compress that are far beyond what we could possibly comprehend. (Here I am arguing with some random intern at a chess website)

Chess.com: I’m a full-time employee

Elon: (something-emoji)

Chess.com: Even my friends don’t text me back that fast

  • Godort@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    So I guess Elon tried to get into chess because it’s a smart people hobby, got demolished, and now is having a sour grapes moment.

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      Probably also paid others to play for him like with his stupid video games, he’s fucking pathetic.

      I would be curious what his highest chess.com raing is. I got to 1650 once, a middling score, more often in the 1500s but don’t play much now.

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    I have been a full ass adult the entire time twitter has existed and I still don’t fucking understand how the thread structure works.

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      When you reply to a tweet, the reply is displayed underneath the tweet you’re replying to, so the thread structure normally is from the top down like you would expect. Unfortunately, some people, like the one running the chess account, habitually use retweets/quote tweets instead of replies, which are displayed above the original tweet (with the original tweet indented to the right). This messes up the thread structure.

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        But for the people doing that it puts their comment first. If there was a better metaphor for shitting all over a commonly agreed upon standard that works well for everyone so you can be at the front then I can’t really think of it.

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        Its been nearly a decade since I’ve used twitter, but iirc you use a quote retweet so it shows for your followers. If you just reply, and they don’t follow the OP, then it doesn’t show in their feeds

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      1 month ago

      I agree, and don’t get me started on the clusterfuck that is Discord. How the fuck do you navigate that abomination of a GUI?

      Want to add a friend? No fucking idea where the button is.

      Want to call a friend? No fucking idea how.

      And God forbid that you want go create a group call.

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        Same. And because it sucks I don’t open it often, so wverytime I do have to open it for some stupid reason (somebody sent me something and probably told me to go there to get it) it goes through several minutes of updates and popups bragging about it.

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    The guy who pays people to play video games for him so he can fail at pretending he played himself in a “Hello, fellow kids” moment is pretending to be smart again? Wild.

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    He’s so insecure about his own intelligence.

    Imagine being the richest man alive and your whole existence is being envious of other people’s abilities.

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    Even my friends don’t text me back so fast

    Lmaooooo love that reply 🤣

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    Elon Musk doesn’t understand complex systems? Colour me I already knew that.

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      I don’t think most rich people are like Elon Musk. He is one of the few that wastes his time trying to prove he doesn’t have a small dick.

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        I don’t think most rich people are like Elon Musk.

        No, some of them are like Donald Trump or Peter Theil.

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        I think the opposite. I think Musk is actually one of the smartest rich guys. Not that I think Musk is smart, but most of these fuckers seem even stupider.

        Like Musk has actually moved tech forward… not because he has any particularly unique insights, just because all the other rich guys were scared of electric cars.

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          What tech did he move forward? He bought paypal, he bought tesla and he bought space-x. All his ideas end up badly.

          At best he is another Steve Jobs (marketing guy), he was for awhile but I think the mask went off when he began to believe he was the Messiah.

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        I wonder how true that actually is? I generally subscribe to the theory that you have to do some horrible shit to a lot of people to hit 1billion. With that comes the automatic assumption that Billionaires are corrupt people. But I wonder how much of it is sheer stupidity blinding them to the damage that they reek on everyone else.

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          I think reason why ultrarich can be called dumb is their lack of introspection.

          They don’t waste time thinking “How does this affect other people?” or “Why do I want to be rich?” or else they wouldn’t have spent decades relentlessly grinding in a rat race.

          You also have to be very delusional and take massive gambles to get rich. It worked out for Gates or Musk, yes, but its a survivorship bias. Lots of other psychotic people have lost all by chasing the next big thing like AI-powered startups or NFTs.

          Although I would surely not claim all ultrarich people are dumb, because I haven’t seen any, nor have research to back this up.

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          With that comes the automatic assumption that Billionaires are corrupt people.

          It’s impossible to become a billionaire without some severely sociopathic character flaws.

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    So he just saw “40 orders of magnitude” and decided that just happened to be the same number he needed to make his point (just going the other way).

    Lol ok.

    Legitimate question; does he know what an order of magnitude is?

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    Ok;

    This is the observable universe.

    Not the entire universe, which we have no idea how large it is.

    So the observable universe has 10^80 atoms or so. The number of possible moves in all possible chess games is supposed to be around 10^120. That number is called the “Shannon Number.”

    According to this site.

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            A mathematical model to solve chess would still need to recognise the move, calculate the advantage and disadvantage of the move and then discard. An algorithm would still need to do this for every move if it’s to be a compleat model.

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              Wouldn’t advantage and disadvantage just be a heuristic that’s useful for feasibly making computers that can win games of chess against humans, but by usual definitions of solved games, I’m not sure it would be useful? You’d still need a decision tree for every possible move the opponent makes for any state of the board.