pretty telling that first reation of some here can be summed with: what is really white?

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    You didn’t even have to remove white people for black people to start subdividing into shades of black. Racism is stupid. Being a certain race doesn’t make it any more or less stupid for you to do it.

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    Non-American here… So it’s only black people or are my best drinking buddies (Bosnian and Turkish) Even more important question does my Chinese wife, my half Chinese daughter and my wonderful mother-in-law still exist…?

    I get this question is from an American who doesn’t actually understand the world… But it makes me very irate.

    If this was Reddit I’d go on a long drunken rant…(I actually started trying to explain)

    Holy shit America, Elon Musk is the reason you are suffering right now.

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    The left handed people will be beat again. They know what they did.

    Also, are we counting the Irish as black again?

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    In no particular order:

    • Mourn the loss of numerous family, friends, and acquaintances.
    • Panic and prepare for the impending crash of my society’s essential supply chains.
    • Existential meltdown at the idea that billions of people can vanish overnight.

    What a stupid fucking question.

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    Depending on your definition of ‘white’, probably start scavenging for the upcoming crisis. The loss of like 90% of the world’s population will create a supply chain crisis and general systems collapse. Who knows what skills and technologies are lost.

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    This is your daily reminder that Irish and Italians weren’t considered white at the beginning of the 20th century in America.

    Hell, some people in Europe don’t consider albanians to be white.

    Also I’d be very concerned as to where all the racial minorities went. Like genuinely concerned.

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      One of my favorite facts was that West Side Story was initially about the rivalry between polish and Italian immigrants in New York and Leonard Bernstein had to rework it because he received feedback that it would be too niche and people who didn’t live in New York in a very specific window of time wouldn’t get it.

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      People who don’t live in Europe don’t even realise how divided white Europeans are. The Irish and Eastern Europeans are even victims of colonisation.

      And forget North America and Europe, just look at Africa and tell me they did not have inter-ethnic conflicts.

      The post is very silly and North Americancentric.

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        Literally Brexit was mostly about Brits not liking other Europeans being free to move to Britain, especially Poles.

        I lived in London and unless they actually start talking and you hear their accent (or, even “worse” for the average Brit, their language) you can’t actually tell a Pole from a Brit.

        So. yeah, a fucking mid-sized country in the modern era has left a massive European trade union which gave them massive benefits (it has been estimated that Britain’s GDP is growing 2% less every year because of leaving) because of their xenophobia against other Europeans, especially Eastern and Southern Europeans.

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        With all these immigrants, Heaven for sure has become a bad place, which is why I refused to go there when offered!! When God comes to his sense and remigrate them, I’ll reconsider!!

        What, you doubt me? Such a lack of faith! You must be a bad Christian! You’ll probably go to Hell!

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      You’re a star-belly sneech, you suck like a leech
      You want everyone to act like you
      Kiss ass while you removed so you can get rich
      But your boss gets richer off you.

      DKs Holiday in Cambodia

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    “White” is a relatively modern concept, and one that can be quite nebulous. I see some people call Bernie Sanders white, but I also see white nationalists who dont consider Jews white. Back when the British were committing a genocicde against the Irish and driving millions of Catholic refugees into a predominantly Protestant America they weren’t considered white. Some Nazis considered Japanese people “honorary whites”. People around the Mediterranean are a whole mixed bag- Italians, Greeks, and Spaniards have all been treated as white or non-white at times. Racists still debate whether Cleopatra and other Coptic Egyptians should count as “white” or not.

    And of course Europeans have been making up divisions and killing each other over it for centuries. The very concepts of “Italy” and “France” and “Germany” and “Spain” and the like are pnky a few generations old.

    It’s not just “white” people though. The Japanese have a history of committing atrocities against their neighbors in Korea and China. Chinese history is largely the story of the Han people conquering the nations around them, and they are still committing genocide against groups like the Uyghurs and Tibetans today. Sudan had the genocide of the Darfuri in the early 2000’s. The Rohingya genocide in Myanmar is still ongoing. We could go on and on.

    The idea that only “white” people are racist is, itself, a racist idea.

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      I’m mixed race and it’s disturbing how true this is. One of the weird things about being mixed race is that people feel comfortable telling me about their racial views.

      There are a bunch of racial and ethnic prejudices that white people (particularly white Americans) don’t even know exist.

      One funny thing is that many forms of racism focus don’t focus on skin color and instead focus on other arbitrary markers; ear lobes, noses, hair patterns.

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        i’m told eyelid fold based racism is pretty big in the korean community i live by. i don’t understand that one in particular (and i’m happy not quite understanding), but bigots gonna bigot. there’s always going to be something people are born with that they sort and prejudge by.

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      I agree every big community of people can be a different level of racist to someone, and I guess if you think of it like a racist food pyramid, then ‘whites’ are at the top of that pyramid.

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        I don’t know there are other ethnicity that are pretty good at it. All I can say with certainty is that humans are very good at it. Never seen another animal care about anothers colour so much. Could you imagine if other animals separated by color it would be ridiculous.

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        Yes, they are generally better at everything. /s

        If you think white US Americans are somehow the only ones capable of racism talk to an Iranian about their feelings toward their neighbors. Or better about minorities in their own country. You will be enjoying an absolutely spectacular history and cultural lession on why Iranians are morally, genetically and culturally superior. Just ask something innocent like “What do you think about arabs?”

        White racists dream of being even half as racist as the average Persian.

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    You’d think it would be hair color which is easier to spot at a distance, with the familiar “brighter is better” rule placing the blond[e]s on top.

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        I assume people with medium lightness would be categorized contextually by them, sort of like how people with skin tones that don’t read clearly black or white are irl. If someone with ambiguous eyes is wearing a hand sleeve and acting noble you’ll assume she’s a light eyes, but if she’s wearing a glove and interacting with laborers you’ll assume she’s a dark eyes.