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Don’t forget about GNU and Linux mememery.
And Star Trek.
What about GNU+Linux?
I’ve been blocking political communities, so I don’t get so much of this. I would recommend you also block communities that annoy you. We’re in the same boat of browsing by top X hours.
Solarpunk doesn’t really bug me though because it’s (supposed to be) more about the good that could be rather than complaining about what is. (Don’t get me wrong, complaints can be valid, but that’s not what I come to Lemmy for.)
there’s posts about adblocking software and adblocking DNS too.
And all kinds of things about sailing out on the open sea AND MAKING AN HONEST LIVING AND NOT PIRATING THINGS
And autism and flashlights, all kinds of cool stuff.
Sounds like you need to diversify your Lemmy subs honestly lmao.
I just browse the feed by top x hours and I see so much of it. Also buttholes.
Be cool if we had more communities like Superbowl
Also buttholes.
Gross. Which subs have such disgusting content? I need to know so that I never go there.
in my defense, politics brings out the stupid in everyone, and i love that.
It’s not my fault people aren’t spending time over arguing about whether some stupid is game is better than some other stupid game. Do better.
/s (sort of)
I subscribe to nothing. I just browse the local and global feeds.
What’s wrong with socialism? I like socialism.
I want to seize the means of production as much as the next guy but it gets kinda boring after a while if that’s the only content available
Sometimes there are cats! That’s always fun! Some of those cats want socialism too, but they’re still cats!
It doesnt get boring hearing about how judges demolish bodily autonomy of women and commit other atrocities in the name of corporate freedom.
Ah you mean in the US? I see, well there’s also the rest of the world
socialism itself is just, kinda weird. From a philosophical perspective it makes sense and has clear distinctions. But from a practical view it’s just sort of. Capitalism but if it was more confusing for some reason. If you go too far into one direction, it’s just communism, and that’s not socialism, obviously. The other direction and it’s literally just capitalism, so it has to sit in this weird space between where you can’t engage with the best parts of capitalism (or it just weirdly handicaps parts of capitalism) and communism.
and then of course you’ve got people (probably grifters) like hasan piker who claim to be socialist while having millions of dollars, but doing literally nothing with it, because investing it wouldn’t be socialist, and you can’t really just give it away, because well, it’s a lot of money. I mean you could, but it’s also just, sort of redundant at that point.
Realistically he should be investing that money into a lot of different things, increasing returns on revenues, and creating a content creator collective or something silly like that, but to my knowledge he hasn’t probably because he’s either stupid or lazy. I don’t blame him for either of those things though.
socialism, particularly modern western socialism that’s based on capital needs a fundamental proof of concept work-through before we can really do anything with it, i think.
Capitalism, while it has problems, it at least makes sense on a fundamental human perspective. I own things, you own things, we own things, that also applies to capital as well. It’s so fundamentally tied to the human experience and history that it’s just sort of hard to deviate from. Even china does a lot of capitalism.
man that was much longer than i anticipated. Apologies in retrospective lol.
Anyway for the second part of the admittedly very old and dead joke by this point in the post. It’s a meme about socialism on the internet. (particularly a farther left space on the internet)
Very well said. Nice write up.
The confusion stems from the fact that you seem not to know what you’re talking about. Like at all.
If you go too far into one direction, it’s just communism
This is a misunderstanding so fundamental that it’s a completely beaten dead horse of a joke.
i’ve seen socialism defined as anything from early USSR under lenin, to capitalism but if private ownership of capital isn’t a thing anymore.
It’s incredibly broad depending on how you want to apply it. And technically, communism is actually a subset of socialism.
Capitalism is likewise pretty broad as well, but generally the ownership of capital is traceable and has some form of root ownership. Even things like stocks still have clearly defined ownership. Loans are weird, but the ownership there is clearly defined.
Under socialism loans may not even be possible, depending on how aggressive with it you are. Unless you lent to a third party, like a separate state/country i guess.
IDK what definition you’re working with here, but there isn’t much flexibility allowing you very much room to differentiate it here. I’m really not sure how you’re going to work out of this one to be honest.
Like philosophically, socialism is theoretically simple. it’s the implementation that’s hard. The idea is pretty simple, it’s the concept that there is no singular ownership, but collective ownership. You could define this as something like “anybody who has any investment in any product/good or service has ownership” but this gets sort of confusing. If i buy product from the goods company, does that mean i now own a “share” of the goods company? If i can, does this mean buying literal shares of the company would be “negative” shares? Or is this backwards, buying product produces a negative share, while investing provides a positive share. Does this influence the “shares” of the employees of the company? Are these the same shares? Can i simply out own the shares of any employee with (literal) capital? Or is buying product not applicable in this scenario. That seems reasonable to me, so we’ll omit that.
Where does currency even come from? The government? The global trade market? Who owns that? Since the money is in my possession, and it’s doing work for me, i must own it, at least partially, but it’s also capable of doing work for others, so do other people also own a part of the capital that i hold? That would be weird so let’s simply ascribe capital as a means of temporarily holding “schizo” capital.
so now we have a socialist society, that has private capital, and relatively isolated businesses. The employees own a share of the business. We still havent determined how that’s proportioned. But we can assume they do, so we have a relatively capitalist market, as that’s generally how a market is going to work most effectively (also that would literally just be communism at that point), unless you are either god, or the worlds most powerful supercomputer that can simply predict the needs of a market at a whim. Or you just allow no flexibility in the market (surely this won’t cause problems) with companies that don’t have direct ownership, which is not dissimilar to how the silicon valley works, minus the VC funding.
So we’ve basically just created capitalism, but different. Not that this is a bad thing. It’s just, an odd problem.
At the end of the day, it’s either going to approach communism, or capitalism, there is no distinct mechanism of socialism. I generally refer to this as an “approaching zero problem” as it has no clear definition, and if you go far enough you’re just going to end up back where you started, one way or the other.
It makes perfect sense if you understand how nuance works. But I think there is where the problem lies- YOUR confusion stems from your inability to understand it.
It makes perfect sense if you understand how nuance works.
Saying “if you do too much socialism, it’s communism” is exactly the opposite of a nuanced understanding. Please read a pamphlet.
They’re not wrong. And I’m not going to apologise for not feeling like explaining it to you, but I’ll advise that you start by learning what nuance actually means.
Nine times out of ten it’s incorrectly defined by idealists that haven’t figured out that a fair amount of American sociological and economic standards are already steeped in socialist services, and the rest of the rhetoric that defines socialism would absolutely fail if attempted in America.
In short, nine times out of ten, a socialist has absolutely no fucking idea what they’re talking about, but just parroting smug bullshit that they think makes them look edgy and educated.
I’m just sick of the fucking tankies telling me World War 3 will finally give us workers rights.
They claim both sides are equally as bad while ignoring the fact that their side has never even been tested. Therefore they have no fucking clue that they wouldn’t be worse.
Shill Stein has already been outed, West is an incompetent blowhard and only shows up ever four years to suggest impractical and irrelevant nonsense,
And JFK….
The Green Party is essential a giant spoiler campaign.
Do you think a tankie is someone who likes tanks?
Tankies are fake communists who worship dictators.
Accuracy of your definition aside, you should realize that they’re not the ones cheering for World War 3, it’s the people who want to invade Iran who are doing that.
I don’t think you’ll find too many bOtH siDEs accelerationists among the liberals, but don’t let this get in the way of some good ol’ fashioned uninformed ignorance!
Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, the Phillippines, Crimea, and Ukraine (just to name some ongoing conflicts)
But sure, its all the west with their “mutual defence pacts” and their “incentivizing diplomacy through trade”, Those beligerent bastards.
Also, though, whataboutism in the face of their dogshit ideology.
Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, the Phillippines, Crimea, and Ukraine
What world do you live in? Hong Kong had some protests four years ago, Taiwan has never had anything happen and nothing appears to be about to happen, Tibet is a conflict that was resolved seventy years ago, and The Phillipines is some boats ramming each other (which isn’t good don’t get me wrong, but it’s hardly a military conflict). You might as well say that Atlanta is an ongoing conflict because it’s still occupied by the Union!
Crimea/Ukraine is the only thing that’s a military conflict that you mentioned, and the people actively escalating it and sabotaging peace talks with regards to it are the western countries.
When you grow that third arm the production will increase by half by default…
Chernobyl was a long con to create production in order to cease the means of it.
Hi, yes, sorry I’m late. I’m here.
Linux
Reddit bad
Am I doing it right?
bears eat beets. Bears, beets, “Battlestar Galactica.”
Beans!
Linux, reddit bad, socialism and star trek are alright. The bean thing I don’t get. Never am I gonna spend energy learning about it either.
The bean thing I don’t get
I recall that being a thing on Reddit too for a bit… Just the internet doing its thing. People like random shit - it all gud.
You forgot the 100 comment posts on anything mozilla does
Overthrow the bougoisie
I have trouble spelling that word, too.
Cook the bolognese…
It’s only us vs the billionaires! Don’t let them try to pit us against each other!
Anyone who owns more than two houses deserves to die!
Anyone who works X job is a bastard, no matter how much good they do.
No, I will not run for local elections.
No, I will not give up Xitter I need it to follow my niche artists despite them having accounts on multiple other platforms including BlueSky.
No I will not give up Facebook. I need it to poke meemaw and check the marketplace for things I’ll never buy or sell because Craigslist amirite?
At least all you twats use ETA less than they do on reddit. That bugs me way more than it should.
There’s also the part that is into crushing with a tank people who don’t hate the USA more than anything in the universe.
All those wanna be commies live in the USA too it’s fucking sad
Most of the world’s commies actually live in China, strangely enough.
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Where would you rather live?
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Ah… so let me get this straight. So instead of being poor in a capitalist country, you’d rather be poor in a communist country?
Edit: JFC dude. Why are there so many of these types on Lemmy
Really? Are you really genuinely ignorant or you simply can’t fathom that non-US people not only exist but also lead happier lives?
Please don’t forget that the vast majority of non-US people lead significantly sadder lives.
The two most populous countries in the world are China and India, in that order, and I haven’t heard many good things about the standard of living in either of them.
No, he’s not. He’s talking about supposedly-socialist people in the USA who idealize vaguely socialism related countries like Russia or China, and think they would have a better life in these countries.
That’s great but doesn’t answer the question
dont forget star trek
And beans, for some reason.
Jeans too
Also, contemplating orbs.
And Denver Post subscribers
And the germans
SPRICH
DEUTSCH
DU
Live long, and may the force be wingardium leviosa!
- Capt. Jean-Luc Severus Skywalker
I use Arch, btw
Bagging Reddit is actually kinda discouraged, more Linux and communism. Or at least screeching about capitalism at every opportunity.
Yeah, for a website forged almost exclusively from former Redditors and especially ones who got burned by Reddit’s abysmal leadership, I rarely see complaints about Reddit on here – arguably far fewer than on Reddit itself.
The socialists are the native inhabitants of this land, the Redditors are the ruthless imperialist colonisers.
I’m half-Redditor, half-socialist. I hope I’m still welcome among those with a pure socialist heritage.
This is a federated cross-platform social network (hi from Mastodon, by the way), not one platform operated by one person with one ideology. No one is native or a colonizer here; those concepts aren’t even meaningful here.
That’s been a welcome change in the last ~6 months. It was a fire hose blast of people going back and forth on whether a ‘thing’ was brought over from reddit, and whether or not it was welcome.
Do I want to open a can of worms by asking what the ‘thing’ is?
Oh, just insert whatever you remember from reddit. Replies that are obviously jokes but off topic, mimicking a meme or such; doing the ‘follow the link’ meme (though I only remember that one popping up once or twice); sounding out a sentence one word per reply… I saw all of those get panned or promoted. Some people screamed about leaving such habits at reddit, others thought they were the height of humor.
There’s a lot of those jokes that will hopefully die on the platform. They had well and truly run their course even on Reddit.
Also make sure you double check if you browse by all and decide to leave a comment
Lol since you mentioned you got banned i had a look… your comments were fuckin awful! Why world you advertise this? I’m absolutely embarrassed for ya… that you still feel this hurt when you got banned trollin.
I went to some other comms to check their logs and it looks like you get banned everywhere you post, fella.
Haha! nothing effin funnier than reading the hurt feelings of someone who got what they deserved.
Thanks for that, really <3
Why not show my comments then lol
Oh I see you’re a regular poster in USAauthoritarianism. 😂
Glad you enjoy sniffing my taint. Come back anytime.
If you had read your own sources then you would have posted the article you are quoting from now first. It’s weird that you assume someone will click on every link in your Wikipedia page. A war is not necessarily genocide. I think you have trouble with understanding what genocide is. You are simply grasping at straws. USA is now killing people in Gaza? So anyone who does business with United States is now USAs fault? “Death to America”? You’re calling for death to Americans while at the same time you are crying about genocide. You’re nothing but a clown. Also, you’re from Iowa lmao. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
So for starters saying “a war is not necessarily a genocide” in response to an example of a genocidal act (America’s continued bombing of Japan after it served no valid military purpose) is genocide apologia.
Secondly questioning the USA’s role in the ongoing genocide in Gaza when the genocide is being explicitly carried out with American bombs is also genocide apologia.
Thirdly “Death to America” refers to the American political project, its imperialist ambitions and its global hegemony, not the mass killing of Americans that you seem to think it does, which is why saying “Death to America” is not a call to commit genocide and doesn’t make the person you were arguing with a hypocrite.
I definitely will 🤣
Clutches pearls
Omg did you pull those out of… Dude wash those off first…
Ah, I see it now.
You see what?
what did you do??
this dude started saying something about “time to take your medicine” to an OP then started smoking crack right there in the thread.
I offended the fake commies with common sense. Rule 2 I’ve been told is something like don’t say anything negative about China. As for the other bans they were celebrating Israel hostages getting killed so I had a few words. That’s not even close to all my bans but you get the idea.
As I’ve said before, these fake communists would not make good comrades because they have really thin skin. It’s just a giant circle jerk for them.
I mean in one way. Yes, you’re fitting in and in another way - Stop talking about Reddit
As mod of !memes@slrpnk.net yer God damn right… Kinda. Most of us are anarchist, or left leaning for sure.
Then there is ml and lemmygrad. They lean on something, I know that at least.
New users accidentally posting on those instances is kinda fun to watch, TBH. It’s like Lemmy’s version of hazing I suppose.
And Steven!
Plus space capitalism with the Ferengi.
Holy fucking shit - amazing
Wait, where did this image come from? I’ll love this. Is this shen OC or is this an edit?
Started with this guy, then did my thing.
Dude you rock! Love what you did above
I realize we’re inherently not capitalistic platform because everyone has the access to own their portion. Pretty cool imo and not to toot the horn for the millionth time, it definitely seems like the future of the internet
Blud thinks this is Mastodon or smth
Who?
Ahem, this is a community
What did you expect?
Blocking hexbear and lemmy.ml no joke removes 95% of shitposting and socialism/communism spamming. Should be done by default. Just block any overly political sub tbh.
This is why I moved to lemm.ee, to make sure people like you could read my socialism comments.
Like this one: read Lenin.
And people like you is why I advocate muting those comms. The odd person like you is still easier to block. Those subs and their communities, evidently, fail to grasp the concept of “disagreeing” or simply not wanting incendiary political discourse in their feed daily.
Not sure what you’re talking about. Since the summer it’s just been post about Dems and how Republicans are weirdos. Honestly, the socialist presence on Lemmy is lacking.
Your instance blocks the tankie ones
You obviously haven’t been on all the meme sublemmies that are nothing but capitalism bad.
Yeah, I see lots of removed about there being (gasp) communists on a platform that was built by communists.
Personally i don’t mind the communism as much (I share many of its beliefs and goals) as the tankieism.
No, China and Russia are not role models but hostile actors. No, their imperialist bullshit and human rights violations or straight up war crimes aren’t justified because the west did a thing that one time and it was also evil. No, the russian kleptocracy and chinese state capitalism are not socialism or communism.
This. Hexbear and .ml are shit for this Then again, I got my comments erased just pointing out Israel’s genocide in a Technology thread directly related to the OP which was a news article about Facebook starting to block such things on their platforms, so fuck .world too.
Democrats are quite convinced they are the most radical and pragmatic political force on earth, being reluctant followers of Placeholder Hitler pitted against More Racist Hitler in the general election (the only election in 𝕌𝕊𝕠𝕟𝕚𝕒 and therefore the only legitimate election on the American continents, Canadia is a 𝕌𝕊𝕠𝕟𝕚𝕒𝕟 state no further questions thank you, thank you). It’s a shame they are all legally required to vote for a Hitler, but the law says for everyone who doesn’t vote for a Hitler they will throw an undocumented child into a fetid ravine where a half-dead river struggles to flow leaving them for the coyotes.
I don’t remember Harris openly advocating ethnic cleansing. If you’re going to say she’s equivalent to Hitler, I expect you to bring receipts.
She is literally a rebrand of Biden, would you call what is happening in Palestine and Lebanon ethnic cleansing? I don’t feel like debating nonexistent changes to the same political platform of lebensraum
I would call what’s happening in Palestine beyond Biden’s meaningful control.
He can cease arms shipments to Israel, but not without losing the election by angering the Jewish voters, and then Trump will nuke Gaza and build one of his high-rises on the rubble. That would solve nothing.
Take it up with Netanyahu and his Israeli supporters. They’re the ones who decided to bomb the hell out of Gaza, not Biden.
BTW, Lebensraum involved taking people’s houses, not blowing them up.
That got me winded since I’m on my phone, I forgot to mention the nuke thing. What is stopping Israel from nuking Palestine is a trifecta of linked issues
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expending its deterrence versus Iran
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counterattack which could flatten Israel is possible without nukes, and has been saved up already (this is not a joke)
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counterattacks against US oil interests in the region
It’s not about the unlimited might of the US being held back by goodwill. There are very real limitations, the Pentagon planned on doing what it’s being forced to do with Iran to China. Plans are scaling down all the time.
By the way the 170,000 pounds figure was from what they dropped on a single city block.
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Dude your worldview is completely based on news headlines and dem memes I don’t have time for this. Consider this a brief overview of stuff to consider and maybe redirect your energy to something better than saving the reputation of the dems, which they certainly will not help you with.
The talking point that Trump is more Hitlerian due to being a threat to the institutions of bourgeois democracy is more credible than the “harm reduction to domestic minorities and global south countries”, but fortunately most people aren’t goofy enough to think that it matters if yet another president oversteps legal boundaries. Fascists rising only had to get rid of bourgeois democracy because power was not secure. Zero institutions in US democracy hinder fascists. The democrats refuse to undo conservative power grabs out of false pragmatism as they already got what they wanted, power within the system over their lessers. Like you view me, like a rube who needs a scolding.
Biden’s branding of Reluctant Hitler has been slapped on the most lenience Israel has ever been given. Harris has also been clear that nobody will stop Israel from dropping 170,000 pounds (multiple Hiroshimas) of US bombs on Palestine and Lebanon.
Biden has been even more extreme on border issues than Trump 1, and Trump 2 will be even more extreme than Biden.
They are both worse than Hitler in their own way because they run a well-oiled empire not a cannibalistic aberration. Our cannibalism of Europe is financial, not via real land grabs.
Please consider how much more there is to our lives than the general election. This is an opportunity to talk to people about what is being omitted from both party’s platforms.
Anyways Jill Stein for the general or fuck you find me a candidate that isn’t Hitler.
I’m sure that Gish gallop would make Vance proud, but you’ll have to do better than that if you want to fool me.
You’ll also need another account, because that one is blocked. Good day.
Hah, coward. You try to start a fight with me half asleep and you still lose.
Is this a theleftcantmeme post?
