• nandeEbisu@lemmy.worldEnglish
    61·
    5 hours ago

    They mean the US in the 80s and 90s when we were burning through all of the goodwill and progress made in the prior half century.

      • nandeEbisu@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 hours ago

        Just out of curiousity, did you ever live in the 80s or 90s?

        I was a child throughout the 90s in the US, and I don’t think its just rose colored glasses. We didn’t have the internet as a whole, but government still mostly worked, we had a good chunk of the middle class left, the enshittification of everything being cheaply made in china hadn’t happened either, food wasn’t all hyper processed HFC’s outside of candy and stuff that is clearly junk food.

        I think there’s some objectively good stuff in that time period, and its not so long ago that you don’t have good medical science and can travel by car and have running water (in the developed world at least).

        • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 hour ago

          The internet didn’t create. It made it so the problems were visible. I know a bunch of nerds boomers and genXers who talk about how it use to be a mono culture, but really, you could only know the people in your own little corner.

          Did the internet and personal recording devices make police brutality worse or just more visible? I remember when teachers weren’t use to half their students having flip phones that could record audio and oh boy, the causal and not so causal racism directed at the students was insane.

        • kandoh@reddthat.comEnglish
          41·
          2 hours ago

          Yeah I do remember, i remember how I needed three cans of coke for dinner because our parents cooked every piece of meat to the point of shoe leather. I remember being dirt poor during the economic slump in the early 90s and how that made all the dads super stressed at a time when you could still slap your kid around a little.

          Also Ronald Reagan winning all but one state, locking America into neoliberal economics for 40 years.

          Worse TV (on average), too many commercials.

          Lot more open racism, sexism, fatphobia.

          Being bored on the toilet.

          Shit sucked.

    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      81·
      7 hours ago

      I agree. I don’t need a historian for this. I remember it, and yeah it definitely wasn’t perfect. But I am not convinced I’m sugar coating it through retrospection. Mid to late 90s was peak civilization as far as I can tell.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    42·
    10 hours ago

    Just about every time period sucks

    The only time period that was enjoyable was only enjoyed by a small portion of the global population at any one time

    Many people on this thread like to point out the 80s, 90s or early 2000s were great … it is true for only about maybe 10% of the global population … the rest were living with developing nations with very little and everyone still struggling like they always had

    The world has always been the same throughout history … I’m guessing about 70% of the population lived just enough to get by … 29% lived with absolutely nothing … and 1% lived with everything

    And it’s still the same today.

    • ☂️-@lemmy.mlEnglish
      231·
      8 hours ago

      as someone from a developing nation, the good ol days were good because i was a kid.

      i think thats the theme here.

  • Danquebec@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    11·
    3 hours ago

    Often, when people learn that I love history, they ask me which time I’d prefer to live in.

    I always like the face of surprise they make when they hear my answer.

    “Today.”

  • MudMan@fedia.io
    24·
    11 hours ago

    This works on longer scales, but I have to be honest with you, I don’t know if me looking back at the late 90s and going “yeah, that went wrong at some point” is just my generation’s version of being nostalgic for a time where you were oblivious to the crappy stuff or a fairly objective assessment of modern world trends.

    I DID grow up in what amounted to a developing nation, several of my neighbors couldn’t read or write and I didn’t have a telephone or a VCR until well into the nineties, but also… you know, the post 9-11 period doesn’t seem like a particular uptrend for civilization, in hindsight.

      • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        3 minutes ago

        Unless you were gay, or female, non-white or lived in Eastern Europe, Asia (minus Japan), India, Africa, South America or Central America.

  • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    8 hours ago

    Idk it’s always “we” to go back in time. Nah just me. My preferred moment in history is not gonna be the same as someone elses.“we” shouldn’t go back to any period, because that’s not a one size fits all.

  • over_clox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    161·
    11 hours ago

    I had no significant outside world problems in the 90s and early 2000s.

    You could get repair manuals and replacement parts for practically anything, and you could even get away with blowing up ant beds in your yard with improv devices.

    Everything seemed to change after Hurricane Katrina though, like the flood waters wiped out all the ant beds I wanted to blow up… 😢

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    10 hours ago

    See, I just want what I consider to be the good parts brought forward, not going backwards

    Since, obviously, I know best for everyone, everywhere, you can rest assured that I will only reinstate the cool shit that you will also love. No, you’ll love it. Whether you want to or not

  • kooks_only@lemmy.caEnglish
    7·
    11 hours ago

    I’d be fine with going back to a time before the heritage foundation and reganomics

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    42·
    9 hours ago

    In terms of civilization, then yes, but humanity live much longer than agriculture.

    The best that civilization had to offer is definitely better than hunter gatherer lifestyle.

    But also:

    The worse that civilization had to offer is definitely worse than hunter gatherer lifestyle.

    So it all depends what part of civilization you’re talking about, even though on average it’s better.