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Because employment is about power dynamics more than doing a job.
It’s also to deny worker’s comp. Have no drug policies and blame workers who fuck up even when it’s the companies fault for creating the conditions for it to happen, just because they took weed a bit
You get it, last week we sacrificed 10 minutes of our break…not a single positive thing was said, we got shit on for taking the remaining 5 minutes.
Pay me a decent wage if you want to treat me like garbage, i already hate being there when people are acting normal.
That’s a crime. You are entitled to a 15 minute break. If they shorten or remove that it is a federal crime. Next time that happens then document it and refuse to work. If they fire you, that’s an easy lawsuit.
You are not entitled to any length of break under federal law. (Usa, obv, other countries different) However, you are entitled to the benefits that were listed when you employed, which mostly likely includes the 10 minute break. So it’s still wage theft. For 20 minutes, it’s probably better to try just documenting it and passing it over to the fed rather than suing.
Wal-Mart said they drug tested, but then they never actually did. You think the zoning and FIFO was immaculate because I was sober? lmao
I went to McDonalds the other day for a rare treat. And because it was a rare treat I was disappointed beyond measure. The shred of loyalty I had left is gone until they rehire the stoners that gave me extra food.
Answer: Because the employees need to be more miserable than the people shopping there.
Funny how people are defending it when it’s not a thing in Canada and supermarkets are still functional
Yeah American employer’s obsession with drug testing is weird. I’ve never even heard of an instance of a job drug testing here in Canada. Not in retail, not in a professional office position, nowhere.
I’m pretty sure it’s downstream from the war on drugs, which was motivated largely by racism (and anti left wing sentiment, to some extent)
Some employers have even begun testing for nicotine. They don’t want anyone on staff who smokes because smokers take breaks.
Seriously? That’s absurd wow
“We’re going to start testing for piss, because we hear people take breaks for that too.”
Yeah it’s largely in the hospital world. It’s a bad look for healthcare or some bullshit they say. I used to work in that world.
From what I’m finding it’s legal in Canada but you need a valid reason to do it
Ah yeah and that totally makes sense. Doing it for everything is just crazy though. Seems like a waste of time for everyone involved
Lots of places in Canada drug test, but it’s mostly construction. Also, last time I was looking for work, it was a swab instead of a piss test, so at least they’re getting more reasonable
I think there’s only some instances you can legally do it in Canada. I think in the transportation and health care sector it’s possible.
Random testing is legally hard, pre-hire is easier (but they still need an excuse, grocery stores aren’t likely to have one).
Part of the reason has to do with insurance companies. The company gets a discount if they can prove there’s a “drug free” workplace. It’s not like it matters to the employees who likely don’t receive insurance benefits because they’re in an “uNskILleD jOb.”
What’s the comments condoning this are missing is that a lot of these places are talking about drug use outside of work.
It ain’t your damn business if I need to get stoned after work to deal with the stresses of life.
Thank god I’m a software developer now where the boss treats us like people that matter and not just numbers. He regularly tells us that we come first the work is secondary. He’s also great with clients and as a result we get insane amounts of repeat business and recommendations.
Software also has the wonderful balance of leverage.
“Do you do drugs? We have to test and fire you if you are.”
“Do you want the release ready next week?”
“…”
“I’ll see you on standup.”
Worked at one when I was young… Gonna have to admit that our best shelf facer (bring items to front of shelf and make pretty) was pretty much high as a kite on cocaine his entire shift
I mean there is a point I wouldn’t trust myself to be high around $800 of cookies
Oh man… what if I worked at Taco Bell…
“One for me, one for you…”
Guilty until proven innocent. In your cases, by having to submit bodily fluids to prove it. Us outside the US are baffled by this.
A Walmart employee should not be held to the same standards as a professional athlete lol
To keep the workers in line. If you believe that nobody’s valuable enough for the company to let a transgression so minor slide, then are you going to organize a union? Let a shoplifter go? Call in sick without being on death’s door?
Your silence only incriminates you!
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Cash handling
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Forklifts
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Parking lots
All of those jobs exist outside of the US and manage just fine without drug testing
The authoritarians on the right don’t care that ever other country is doing it wrong.
'merica!
I am outside the US and I don’t think they usually are drug tested.
But that doesn’t mean showing up high to work in a supermarket is OK.
But those are only reasons you shouldn’t be high during working hours.
Which is what the meme talks about?
I agree with the person you are replying to but not sure why you being downvoted, the meme is suggesting to smoke before stocking shelves.
Reality is most of these guys just pass the initial screen and then show up to work every single day after that stoned as hell.
Source: Worked overnights stocking shelves for a major supermarket for about 1 year.
- Walk in freezers
- Big high power electrical doors/lifts/machines
Your generation is so soft, and brainwashed. Heaven forbid you miscount your masters money.
Your generation are the petty tyrant masters.
How do we know what generation people are?
Well first we decide who we are angry at and assign the person to that group. Simple really!
Oh I thought maybe I had missed a Lemmy setting. That sounds much easier.
Well, that is exactly what the person I replied to did.
So I’m just playing the uno reverse card, just mirroring their baseless rhetoric.
They didn’t give any sound reasoning, why should I?
But here, I will anyway:
Just generally speaking, people who attack younger people by calling ‘their generation’ a bunch of pussies… tend to be older generations.
You can contextually tell the original insult is aimed at younger people because the OP features a picture of a young person.
Then a bunch of other older people who feel attacked by the tactic often used by them, against younger people… being uno reverse card’d back at them… well now its time to be rules lawyers and now logical consistency and provable statements matter.
Bullying Baby Boomers often shrivel back into just being babies when they get bullied back the exact same way they bully others.
You jumping in to be a white knight in this situation is a reasonably good indicator you are also a hypocritical boomer, but I suppose its also just possible you could be of any age, or perhaps aren’t very fluent in English, or you are aren’t clever enough to deduce ‘what I did there’ in my comment, and have to have it all explained to you here, in this post.
Did you copy this from Chatgpt or Gemini?
Did you just assume my generation?
Back to your bottle now, drinky drinky.
You leave him out of this!
- What about the reverse? If you give someone 10$ too little, that might completely fuck their life up if they are on the edge of going hungry/homeless.
- Dont they compare the physical cash against the digital system at the end of the day? Then you get caught and lose your job…
Orphan crushing machine. Why is someone on earth 10 dollars away from being homeless/starving?
Because capitalism :)
300 million vs a few monkeys. Softest generations ever.
What generation?
Right. It’s disgusting.
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And on the other end of the fucked up shit spectrum, I had a boss at a pizza delivery place that refused to let me clock in if my “eyes weren’t red enough.”
He never came out and told me to go get high, he indirectly just told me to go get high. I was his best delivery driver when I had my weed.
And there I am on my bike being told by the police to be careful because I could traumatize a car driver that hits me.
Great to confirm that you can be fucking high while driving a lethal multi ton vehicle and if a cyclist of a pedestrian gets hit, it’s gonna be an “accident” from the driver, and the cyclist or pedestrian’s fault anyway, for not wearing a helmet, or not being visible enough.
I never said anything about the legality of the situation. It was illegal AF, but I never got into any accidents, so it was a non issue.
“yeah I drove home drunk, but, you know I’ve never hit anyone so it’s fine”
Even the NHTSB has proven that is a false equivalency.
Well, see, the thing is, they don’t. No one gives two shits about weed. Ran into a coworker today vaping skunk in the parking lot. Hell, 20-years ago an employment recruiter told me they no longer tested for weed because they’d lose 80% of their people.
In any case, if you can’t lay off whatever shit you’re hitting for a few days to pass, you got a problem. And yes, some employment requires the most straight and narrow sorts of people. Grocery stores are not those jobs.
Are 250 cans even a lot? That’s about 100kg. If the trays are 10x10 that are 25 movements or done in about 25 Minutes at a leisurely pace.
