I wonder if the West having this new wave of anti-queer reaction will short-circuit this cycle. Hard to claim we are agents of neocolonialism and imperialism when the US is attacking trans people and is on the cusp of rolling back gay marriage rights.
Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against “lgbt=colonialism” then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.
I’m talking about contradictions that can arise between religion and politics.
If their religion says to be charitable to the poor, but their politics say to starve the poor, they’ll starve the poor. If their religion says to love their neighbor, but their politics tells them to hate their neighbor, they’ll hate their neighbor. When there’s a contradiction between religion and politics, they’ll choose politics and then work backwards from there to justify it religiously.
I get what your saying, but I’m adding that even independently of that they follow abrahamic religions and that is homophobic. On one hand there is a niew of neo colonialism and on the other you might be asking them to be more secular. Both are very steep and somewhat independent hills.
Abrahamic religion isn’t set in stone, it’s capable of reform and has even done so in other historical contexts. This doesn’t even require secularism, all it requires is that they read their books in a different way for different interpretations.
But secularism isn’t impossible. As the colonizers become less secular and more religious, the historical currents begin to push against religion among the colonized. Perhaps less so among Muslims because they can deflect the contradictions onto sectarianism against the Christian colonizers, but African Christians will have to reconcile the contradiction between their anti-colonialism and worshiping the god of religious colonizers.
That’d be… nice… but no. When it come to homophobia, people hate what they don’t understand and then come up with reasons to justify it, not the other way around.
Hate has a material basis, it’s not just something that emerges organically from human nature. The ruling class needs to maximize the reproduction of labor so it invented and promoted queer hate as a way to remove one of those obstacles. Its material basis is actually very similar to anti-abortion and anti-contraception and anti-feminist politics.
I wonder if the West having this new wave of anti-queer reaction will short-circuit this cycle. Hard to claim we are agents of neocolonialism and imperialism when the US is attacking trans people and is on the cusp of rolling back gay marriage rights.
Maybe, but they view their religion as native, not foreign. And those have built in homophobia in the doctrine.
Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against “lgbt=colonialism” then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.
Contradiction with religious folk is often boiled down to “if I don’t believe the contradiction exists then it must not exist!”
Source: whenever anyone brings up contradictions in the Bible
I’m talking about contradictions that can arise between religion and politics.
If their religion says to be charitable to the poor, but their politics say to starve the poor, they’ll starve the poor. If their religion says to love their neighbor, but their politics tells them to hate their neighbor, they’ll hate their neighbor. When there’s a contradiction between religion and politics, they’ll choose politics and then work backwards from there to justify it religiously.
I get what your saying, but I’m adding that even independently of that they follow abrahamic religions and that is homophobic. On one hand there is a niew of neo colonialism and on the other you might be asking them to be more secular. Both are very steep and somewhat independent hills.
Abrahamic religion isn’t set in stone, it’s capable of reform and has even done so in other historical contexts. This doesn’t even require secularism, all it requires is that they read their books in a different way for different interpretations.
But secularism isn’t impossible. As the colonizers become less secular and more religious, the historical currents begin to push against religion among the colonized. Perhaps less so among Muslims because they can deflect the contradictions onto sectarianism against the Christian colonizers, but African Christians will have to reconcile the contradiction between their anti-colonialism and worshiping the god of religious colonizers.
Or they’ll convert to Islam. It’s hard to say.
But there are lots of ways this can play out.
Fair enough. Just that coming from a fundie place I think the cognitive backflips might hold. Tho I hope you’re right 🙂
That’d be… nice… but no. When it come to homophobia, people hate what they don’t understand and then come up with reasons to justify it, not the other way around.
Misanthropy tbh
Hate has a material basis, it’s not just something that emerges organically from human nature. The ruling class needs to maximize the reproduction of labor so it invented and promoted queer hate as a way to remove one of those obstacles. Its material basis is actually very similar to anti-abortion and anti-contraception and anti-feminist politics.