• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    There are plenty of ways to make this better. Most of it’s theater because there’s nothing really wrong with touching the door, but some of the ways are not even expensive to make it comfortable for germaphobes.

    Single bathroom doors always swing out

    Copper-plate the handles

    If you have to swing in, add a foot handle.

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      Plenty of stuff wrong with touching the door, considering how many people don’t wash their hands…

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        What else do they touch? How many are employees? The door is only gross because you know it’s being touched. EVERYTHING is being touched, and something like 50% of people don’t wash their hands properly or at all.

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          Yeah that’s why you don’t touch other stuff either, because it’s all gross. But at least if you go to the bathroom to wash your hands, you should be able to like eat your lunch after

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      The only reason touching doorknobs is gross is because people don’t wash their hands.

      Unless you’re willing to opt in to some kinda bathroom panopticon that locks the bathroom until everyone trying to leave has properly washed their hands, it’s probably best to just avoid a knobbed door.

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        Those same people are touching everything else in the store/world. The employees have touched every item on the floor. half of those don’t wash their hands. The door only feels gross because you have no doubt.

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          That’s why I try not to touch most things with my hands.

          I should also order more handkerchiefs

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    The best is no door at all - like at airports where there’s just a barrier wall you have to walk around. I was about to say it’s not something you can do in every setting, but that’s only because we aren’t willing to dedicate the space to it.

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    Mythbusters did a segment that showed the air dryers are more likely to spread germs. So it’s just awful all around

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      Environmental Health Officer here… I had a classmate who did a study on this, specifically the Dyson-type where you stick your hands in downwards.

      Next time, take a look at what’s there in the 2mm gap on the bottom inside where the water, etc. collects, and where the forced air blows all that material. Remember to not breathe.

      There’s a reason why we direct food businesses to use paper towels in the kitchen, not hand dryers. Also, because ain’t nobody got time to properly wash their hands for 30 seconds and then stand there completely drying their hands when they have 20+ chits on the go.

      Edit: Forgot to mention, the majority of people don’t know how to wash their hands properly, especially under the nails (both men and women). They’ve just used the hand dryer. Now you use the hand dryer. Multiply that by how many days it is before these things actually get cleaned and sanitised only to be contaminated again by the first user until the next clean and sanitise, if ever. Humans are filthy. 💀

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          I highly doubt they do. They probably just get tested and tagged, and maybe to make sure the filters are cleaned/replaced. Otherwise, I really don’t know. Do the daily cleaners even wipe those down? I’ve more often seen people cleaning the traffic lights (3 times in my entire life) than I see anyone go near a hand dryer with a cloth (none).

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            The Dyson dryers certainly don’t get wiped. I’ve never seen one that wasn’t caked in some sort of gunk.

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    This is why I love those things at the bottom of the door that lets you open the door with your foot.

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      Yes and I find it funny that I see them in some of the cheapest, bars & restaurants.

      Sit at a bar and have $3 beer, there’s a foot grab.

      Sit at a sushi bar and get $150 bottle of sake, no foot grab. Bizzaro.

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      True, except in this picture, you have to pull the door to get out.

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        I know … and unlock the door too!!! So I would only do that after and before i wash my hands.

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    I’ve had contamination OCD for the majority of my life, and this shit has been torture for me.

    I’ve been trying to get a ADA accommodation to work from home because my job is in software, but the bastards over at HR think that clorox wipes and a dedicated cube will solve this shit. It’s irritating as fuck that nobody in charge seems capable of piecing basic hygiene together.

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      Hey I’m an athlete but these foot pull doors are still extremely difficult. It strains your calf muscles, your hamstrings, your kegels, and your core. Opening heavy restroom doors with this spiky foot pull is not easy or fun or comfortable at all.

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        Yeah the one where we’re supposed to put our forearm through the hook. But you know people would just use their bare bacteria-ridden hands to pull that. Defeating the purpose of the germ-free handle.

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          It’s still something you can easily grab with your shirt or (ideally) jacket. That’s almost as good as if you were wearing gloves after washing your hands

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    Now don’t say that, we’re gonna have touchless doors that don’t work for dark skinned folks and too excited to open for white people passing by

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      There is some blame on the establishment for not providing a garbage by the door to alleviate this issue. However, if it was provided and people are still trashy, I guess it is what it is.

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    Touchless sinks are the worst fucking tech ever. Shit never works, and when it does, it never gives you enough water to get a good hand wash

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      I’ve witness a lot of people won’t wash their hands after taking a piss. In fact some of them take a shit and just walk out without washing hands. These people then touch doors, windows, counters, food plates, appliances, evey fucking common surface… People in the office, corporate buildings, people in suits… so yeah, fuck people, they’re fucking disgusting.

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          I agree, same goes for vaccinations, people are now much less likely to vaccinate their kids, which may lead to catastrophic consequences…

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      Still would accumulate toilet aerosols over time, and would still be gross. The real solution is foot handles or no door

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    I mean unless the air blowing on your hands was freshly filtered and uv sterilized that is going to be an issue to.

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      i have lost mucho sleep over the fact that even holding my breath while using an air dryer doesn’t prevent poop gems being blasted into my pores 💀

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        poop gems

        The fecal mist lingering around is real. That’s why one should always flush with a closed lid.

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          You ever seen an airtight toilet lid? That ain’t doing shit against aerosolized fecal particulates. Don’t worry though, no one’s gets sick just breathing the air in a bathroom, most public toilets in America don’t even have lids. If “fecal mist” was an actual health risk, the science would be well in by now, the patterns would be unavoidable and ubiquitous. Maybe if you lick the walls where the bathroom air condensates you might get sick, but most people are reasonable enough not to do that just by instinct.

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          Mythbusters tested this. With the lid open or closed, poop particles were detectable in every room of a house after a flush. The lid does nothing.

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      At some point you’ll need to settle on an acceptable level of germs or lose your mind totally

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        This is true. The Mythbusters episodes about double dipping tortilla chips in salsa and about leaving your toothbrush in the bathroom convinced me that the entire world is covered in an invisible layer of poo and there’s nothing I can do about it, so I’ve got to just try to accept it.

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          this is kinda funny because I was in microbiology and you rarely saw anyone there who was middle ground with germs. The knowledge either made them super casual about it or super rigid. I worked in labs where the professor kept his zip locked sandwich from home in the fridge that had the salmonella samples. I would have my dews in there but I did wipe them down with 95% ethanol before drinking.

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    This thread renforces my theory that hygienism is a bastard of capitalism. So much useless worries but in the same time so lucrative