You don’t understand. Liberals bad.

Yeah I’m confused, this is the democratic party’s fault?

Because everyone expects the Republicans be shitty, so it is entirely up to the Democrats to get anything positive done. Any obstruction by the Republicans is seen as a failure on the Democrat part because of that.

It’s funny that you’ve thought about this for so long and you still don’t understand. You need to take your position and think about it for 15 more minutes. People here who are blasting the Democrats in Washington are probably people who voted for them or who considered voting for them. The politicians who are supposed to represent us are failing to do so. That’s a big problem.

If you want to point out that the Republicans are worse, good for you. Many of us have much worse things to say about Republicans, and we definitely vote against them. So if you’re accusing us of being shallow or hypocritical, you’re just wrong.

Many commenters have defended Washington Democrats by talking about how the Republicans obstruct everything. Yes, that’s true, and it’s an old problem. What have the Democrats done to prevent it from happening in the future? The Democrats could have tried to get rid of the filibuster, they could have raised the debt ceiling by minting coins worth a billion dollars, they could have tried to stack the court with Democrats to offset the Republican efforts, they could have tried to create national health care. They could have done lots of things. And some Democrats are honestly in favor of these things. Others are corporate centrists. They’ll talk the talk as much as necessary, but they won’t act towards progressive interests.

If you think pointing that out is destructive, you’ve just adopted an anti-democratic position where leftist views don’t mean anything. And if that’s your view, I don’t think it’s worthy of respect. Also, you might say that speaking critically about the Democrats is bad because it hurts their chances of winning in the election. That’s wrong for two reasons. First, halfway intelligent voters already know some of the major issues, and pretending those issues don’t exist isn’t going to motivate them. It’s better to be honest about the state of affairs. Second, we have a civic duty to redress our grievances with government. Biden was hurt in the bull’s heavily because he had supported Israeli genocide. The public was opposed to that in large numbers, and you can bet that other people have carefully considered their stances as a result of the pressure that they saw Biden feel.

The American people just spent 15 years watching Obamacare get gutted from what it originally was, minimum wage not increase at the federal level, the SCOTUS got 3 conservative judges appointed to it despite two being appointed against precedent, marijuana is still illegal at the federal level, Chevron Deference was just gutted, Roe v Wade was overturned and half this country lost bodily autonomy, the last two decades have seen the least productive congresses in our nation’s history yet the filibuster remains because “decorum/the Republicans might take advantage of it,” cops still have qualified immunity, millions of people don’t have health insurance or are food insecure or are homeless, school funding has been gutten, college tuition continues to skyrocket, trillions of dollars have been funneled from the poorest to the richest in this country for no other reason than greed while social welfare programs are being cut, the list goes on for a long time.

And all of this was done by “Republican obstruction,” which is fine, it’s a legitimate reason for things to happen or not happen. But after 15+ years, minimum, and this new generation of voters watching the Democrat Party hum and haw and wag their fingers at each other and Republicans while the American people get fucked more and more year after year…

It’s not a legitimate excuse anymore, and this whole Democrat shtick of “you have to vote for us because we’re not the Republicans” isn’t working anymore, people are fucking tired of it. I’m fucking tired of it, honestly. Republicans got TWO SCOTUS nominations because, at a minimum, one man in one position in the Senate refused to follow decorum. And the Democrats just twiddled their thumbs and said “humpty dee, nothing we can do, sorry, it’s the rules” 🤷‍♀️.

To get back to the minimum wage: Trump got funding for his stupid wall by taking money slotted for shit like schools for the DoD and such through a state of emergency, but Biden/the Democrats can’t do anything about the minimum wage? Or abortion? Or marijuana? Trump got his wall funding basically overnight, it seemed, but it took 3 years for the director of the DEA to reclassify marijuana because reasons?

Regardless of the reasoning behind it, whether its legitimate or not, people are sick of it. They’re sick of being told to pinch their nose and vote for the candidate they don’t even like because the “boogeyman” over there is gonna be much worse. But… How? They actually get shit done, and in ways that are apparently “illegal or against the rules” yet they have to remain as law/precedent because they still happened.

Bullshit. I’m as left/liberal/whatever you’re supposed to call it now as it gets. I’m a veteran who thinks the DoD budget needs to be gutted and that the US military is the largest and most successful socialism program in our country, I’m a trans woman, I’ve worked public service and private sector jobs, I’m registered and vote blue, and I’ll be honest, until Biden stepped down, I was seriously considering sitting out of this vote just because it was like, what’s the point?

The Democrats don’t care about what their constituents actually want (hence why they fucked Bernie over so badly, he wasn’t “establishment” enough for them despite his popularity) in a candidate, and they don’t pass legislation that actually benefits most of us. The biggest thing I’ve heard people rally behind is student loan forgiveness, which yes, the Democrats have achieved progress and victory on and been hampered by the Republicans, I’ll acknowledge that.

But notice that’s the only debt they’re willing to forgive because it impacts enough of their constituents to warrant it? I’ve yet to hear a single Democrat (but have heard one Republican) say credit card debt from during the Pandemic should be forgiven since so many were forced to use credit cards to pay rent, groceries, utilities, etc while they either couldn’t work or couldn’t. And when I bring it up to friends with student loans, fellow Democrats, I’m basically told, “Well, you need to wait your turn, they’ll get to that after the student loans.” Why the fuck can’t they do both?!? Why do the Democrats keep hindering progress so they can have a platform to run for reelection on, and God forbid they just accomplish a goal the American people actually want and then gasp actually have to come up with something else.

All this, everything above, the American people have to watch and listen to bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse day after fucking day while Congress ensures they still get their raises, they still have their health insurance, and they still only “work” like 32 weeks/year with all of their recesses and breaks and everything else, while the average American worker isn’t even guaranteed a livable wage, or even fucking vacation/sick time, or health insurance.

So no, I’m tired of the “BuT fOx NeWs” bullshit that the Democrats keep spitting. Regardless of their circumstances, Republicans continuously hit their goals and ensure their policies are enacted, regardless of the decorum or precedent surrounding any of it. And all of that boils down to what Jeff Daniels said as Will McAvoy on The Newsroom:

“If liberals are so fuckin’ smart, how come they lose so goddamn always?”

End rant/

Edit to OP’s Update:

Yeah, democracy is 100% on the line, so why are anonymous senior Democrats coming forward and saying “We’ve resigned ourselves to a second Trump presidency?” Because it doesn’t effect them, so why should they care??

And I’m sorry, but if the people we’re electing resign themselves to failure, why the fuck should we even try? Like, seriously, if our elected representatives have resigned themselves to fascism and are perfectly ok with it, then wtf am I supposed to do? Give them more money so maybe they’ll pretend to give a shit?

I understand what you’re saying, but the Democrats don’t get anything done. So after 30 years of getting fucking nothing from the party that keeps telling you the other guy is a fascist and you need to vote for them so they’ll do XYZ, and then they pretend to half ass just X and don’t even try to solve Y or Z, what’s the fucking point? At the least the fascists don’t bullshit, and at least the fascists get things done.

Democrat politicians act like they’re their constituents parents who know what’s actually best for them, and they’re fucking not. We brought them into their position, they need to fucking get things done for us and stop with the constant bullshit infighting and bullshit excuses. If Trump can get 3 Supreme Court Justices and fucking Presidential immunity, why the FUCK can’t Biden and the Democrats secure abortion/LGBTQ+/labor/etc rights into law? Why can’t they fucking do anything other than enrich themselves with insider trading?

Notice despite things getting harder for the majority of Americans, every politicians portfolio across the aisle still went up? Yet they’re telling us they understand things are hard, they’re trying their best. At least the fucking Republicans just tell you they’re gonna fuck you in the ass and how. The Democrats promise you dinner and then expect their cum down your throat to be sufficient, while expecting you to thank them for tapping your head before they cum.

I seriously hope this reinvigorated voting base convinces the DNC that the way things are going aren’t working, and that the DNC were a lot closer to becoming non-existent with this election than they felt comfortable. Because that’s how all of us minorities feel, but we don’t have golden fucking parachutes to catch us when shit continues to hit the fan because the Democrats care more about gobbling the balls of lobbyists than they do the people who fucking put them there in the first place.

Get out of here with your facts, commmie.

THIS IS USA, where we hide inconvenient truths, repeat propaganda talking points, and blame it on someone else.

Surely so, one would think. Ah well, the joke’s on us!

Well, I don’t know about you, but I can’t teleport. the last time I checked, neither can the u.s. political zeitgeist. If we want more left, we are going to have to get there the long way.

unfortunately it is for a two party system. if you don’t vote Dem, the only lesson they’ll take from it is “oh, people must want more conservative positions” and go further right.

the solution to this isn’t to not vote Dem, it’s to elect representatives that align with more leftist positions, which to the credit of democratic voters, has been happening more than in any time in history.

that is partly thanks to a new generation of people who don’t fall for the red scare propaganda that previous ones did, and leftism and socialism being less stigmatized.

And therefore what?

Oh, as opposed to the Republican plan to do a bad job? Russian Bot Say What?

Companies pay damn good money to ensure their payroll stays as low as possible. It’s cheaper to buy donate to politicians than raise base pay.

one universal health care idea was to allow all citizens to buy into the same healthcare plan as congress at the same rate they pay.

will

For government positions it’s about retention as they are competing with the private sector for employees.

American media, by which we mean conservative media, refers to liberals as that to trick people into thinking the far left doesn’t exist. If centrists can be labeled as left as left can be then it’s safe to ignore the actual left. Of course the Liberals aren’t exactly upset about this either.

Oh.

And here’s how the rest of the world uses the word “Liberal”: https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=liberal+

Here is the Wikipedia article on liberalism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

Here is the dictionary definition of the word: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/liberal

But, hey, your racist asshole made a shitty song about how much he liked Malcom X being shot so liberal is bad and something vote trump, right??

Because in the US they’re two separate groups.

Capitalists wont let that happen. How else can they exploit humans for work if they don’t have to work.

Ubi is only a piece of the puzzle. We need to uncouple healthcare from employment as well.

Tie it to the GDP and […] and buy local.

I’m gonna need the receipts on that crazy orthogonal linkage. Be sure to stress how paying a local guy I don’t know for employing a dozen locals is better than paying a remote guy I don’t know for employing a dozen locals.

So you’re telling me there’s no downside?

I’m sure voting for Republicans or not voting will help though right? Lol. I live in a state that’s been controlled by Democrats for a while and we keep voting for more and more progressive people. Things are objectively better and they’ll keep getting better.

I’m sorry that the entire country isn’t a socialist utopia after the Dems had tiny majorities in the house and Senate for one term and an even slimmer one another time. Both times with those majorities made up of vulnerable representatives in conservative areas. Turns out that’s how democracy works. It’s slow and that sucks but Republicans have spent 40 years grinding us towards fascism. Fascism is way easier to push as well.

We have to vote for the most progressive candidates possible. They all have to win big so they don’t have to be scared of being unseated by moderates or Republicans. We have to keep doing this from the local level to the federal level for a long time for things to change. Because if that’s who gets voted in consistently then the Republicans and the Democrats will move left.

40 years since Reagan and you’re over here crying that the Dems didn’t change the entire momentum of the country in 4 when they didn’t even have a clear mandate from the voters? Pathetic. You are the problem. Get some perspective and have the decency to spend an hour or two to vote for the most progressive candidates available which is the absolute easiest and least thing you can do. I know it’s slightly harder than crying on the internet. Sorry about that.

Take it down a notch there …. But let me relate it to everyday politics. My state is deep blue, Democratic Party’s best friends. So why don’t we get any live on election years? Why are we basically ignored? Why is all the campaign money spent in swing states? Why do they campaigns there and we don’t even have a tally to attend? The Democratic Party is focusing on the centrists and swing voters, not us.

Why is that?

As someone with a close friend that’s getting brainwashed by Republican propaganda( he got into blue collar work, thinks Dump is pro blue collar), there’s just no winning, no amount of logical reasoning matters. Arguing against their “truth” is arguing against their community and support system. It’s neigh impossible to convince them when they just google “FOX NEWS/NEWSMAX TELL ME IM RIGHT” and counter your reputable sources with bs.

Rules the democrats put in place on themselves twice, and republicans remove as soon as they’re in power.

Nope, the republicans have not removed the filibuster or senatorial holds. (side note: In the past, the filibuster was restricted in regards to appointing justices/federal judges only. First by Dems for SCOTUS justices, then by Repubs for federal judges. Other than that neither of them have removed the filibuster. The filibuster and senatorial hold are the rules I was talking about, which are the main ways that repubs stymie Dems’ ability to pass legislation (and the other way around BTW).

We saw it under Bush when he went to war without congressional approval and essentially said “Yeah I’ll ask permission to stay 9 months into the war”.

But he did get congressional approval beforehand when they passed this resolution. Of course he got it by lying to Congress and the UN .

fuck