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      It’s wild to me that Democrats thought Hillary Clinton 2.0 was a good idea. They even fucked up the primaries like in 2016 as well.

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            Like how granular do we want to get? There was no time for primaries with finding multiple candidates who have time to prepare a platform based on new pollng information (also takes time) on what policies were popular and battling it out for a month which would have cut into campaigning time.

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          joe biden has been in office for almost four years. his approval rating has been low for a while. there was time

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            … He didn’t step down until 3 months before the election, so no there wasn’t time for a primary after he stepped down.

            There was time for him to step down and I think he should have never tried for a second term, but that’s not what the discussion is.

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              it looks like we’re mostly on the same page here. maybe the only difference is that i think that joe biden’s refusal to step down was a core part of fucking up the primary. so, for that reason, i think it is an important part of the discussion. there would have been plenty of time if he had stepped down earlier.

              but i’m more-so just trying to clarify my earlier comment. i completely agree with you that there wasn’t time for a primary after he stepped down.

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                You’re not clarifying. When I say “There was no time for a primary.” that is obviously after he stepped down. That you take that to be anything but that, well.

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                  that’s not immediately obvious to me, since it’s assuming that it was an inevitability that he’d refuse to step down. and there are many reasons why he should have stepped down much earlier.

                  but i can also understand your side of things, and i can see how it would be obvious from your perspective. im just trying to share my perspective and clear up a misunderstanding. at the end of the day, it seems like we’re both in agreement about the big picture.

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      Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
      Everybody knows the war is over
      And everybody knows the good guys lost
      Everybody knows the fight was fixed
      The poor stay poor and the rich get rich
      That’s how it goes
      And everybody knows

      Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
      Everybody knows the captain lied
      Everybody got this broken feeling
      Like their father or their dog just died

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      The last 2 weeks of nonstop Trump headlines was the nail in the coffin for me.

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    I thought we had it when he said they were eating cats and dogs.

    I thought we had it when he said they were eating cats and dogs.

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      I made the mistake of thinking we had it when we heard him say he can grab them by the pussy so this one didn’t get me.

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        As a European I thought there is no way Americans are stupid enough to reelect someone who openly supported overthrowing the government the past time.

        Had I said it out loud I would have known trump would get reelected, because americans are that stupid.

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          As a European, we shouldn’t be so quick to judge, we are only a few years behind them, and who is the greater fool, the fool or the one who follows the fool?

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            Don’t worry my country just this last cycle reelected a wannabe Orbán fuck as PM and his crony won the presidency, I already live in a clown country, now the US has followed it, as a bonus I am of Hungarian descent so I can’t even “go home” because obviously I would just exchange Orbán light for Orbán.

            I should go back to Czechia, already spent 9 years there, it’s just a better country.

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              I should go back to Czechia, already spent 9 years there, it’s just a better country.

              Don’t worry, here in Czechia we are electing our(or rather Slovak) wannabe Orbán next year :-/

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      I thought calling Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage was the Trump campaign’s final death rattle.

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      I thought we had it when so many Republican insiders were worried, when even the Toupee himself was losing sleep over the possibility of losing. I hoped they knew something we didn’t.

      Turns out they’re even incompetent at worrying.

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        They just wanted you to think they were worried so you wouldn’t vote. who do you think put out the news that trump didn’t get a good nights rest? who would even know that to share unless it was on purpose?

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    Same… As soon as the polls were showing how close it was I knew we were going to lose all of the swing states… We never learned our lesson over the last 10 years… Every poll Trump is involved in the polls underestimate him by a lot… +1 Harris, +3 Harris, whatever, is really +4 Trump.

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    The thing is, I was certain it would take more time than this. I thought the election would be close enough for him to contest it, and that the Supreme Court would end up deciding the election 6-3. Instead the presidency was just…handed to him directly.

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      I figured the outcome of this election would be one of three things:

      1. Harris wins decisively
      2. Harris wins by the skin of her teeth after a couple weeks of recounts and lawsuits
      3. Trump wins by the skin of his teeth after a couple weeks of recounts and lawsuits, and maybe a riot

      I didn’t really consider the fourth option because Trump’s never won the popular vote before and it seemed like there was more excitement for Harris than Biden, at least up until the last month. So I’m actually blindsided by the fact that it turned out to be:

      1. Trump wins decisively

      He didn’t do any better than he ever has, it’s just that nobody showed up for Harris.

      Edit: plus the fact that the R’s seem to have every branch of government. This really couldn’t have gone much worse

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    Probably the biggest contributing factor is that the Democrats aren’t really anything to get excited about, like nobody’s going “YEAH! SOMEBODY TO GO PLAY DRAG ASS FOR 4 YEARS AND STILL GET OPPOSITION!” It’s just better than having some more blatant corporatist fuck actively make things worse, which is unfortunately where we’ve ended up.

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    This more or less captures the spirit of the last 100 days, yup. Maybe I should watch some Bojack, it’s certainly more lighthearted than this political season has been. Ugh

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    If you haven’t seen BoJack horseman, it’s a guy that knows he’s a bad person and he suffers because of it. That’s the whole series.

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        more power to you if you like it, but I don’t like the way it romanticizes depression / people with depression. I get that that may have been the point (after S1, when they gave up on trying to make a comedy show), but I think that show set back my recovery from depression a lot.

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        I feel like Bojack was an asshole but it was kind of perpetuated by the people around him, there were several times in the show where he really makes an honest attempt to turn things around and almost succeeds but always ends up getting shot down, sometimes by his past, sometimes by the influence of the other toxic stars around him and at the end of the show when he tries to make a public apology and then gets bait and switched by the media into burning his own name to the ground in the name of more views.

        he’s very much still not a good person but he’s also kind of representative of how event honest attempts at redemption can be used against you.

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      Easily one of my favorite shows, but I still upvoted you. Rock your own opinion.

      I rewatch every time my depression flares up, and I’m even more depressed by the end. And I hate Bojack more each time instead of instinctively siding with him. But I come out the other side feeling a little lighter, almost like having a good cry from a sad movie.