• ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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    Joke reviews are so fucking mean to people who pour their heart into games. You’re not clever.

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      As someone who’s does work that get app reviews, luckily I haven’t had to deal with joke reviews, but it really sucks when there’s some very temporary problem for a day or two, and suddenly you start getting a bunch of ‘it used to be good but xyz is broken’ reviews that never go away because when its fixed, they never come back to update it.

      Please be a responsible reviewer and if its something temporary, update your review! Ive even replied and let them know its fixed and it stays forever.

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        I think it can be a life lesson about fixing issues ahead of time. Users may just want to go about their needs, and aren’t volunteering to keep checking back after periodic updates to see if things are better.

        I’ve had times where I report an issue, a developer (or release note) claims it’s fixed, I try it out, and the issue is still there. That can be very different from a direct communication asking me to try out a beta release that might’ve fixed it. In one of those scenarios I’m asked to QA test, in the other I’m implicitly forced to be one.

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            Take a closer look at the review. “It used to be good but XYZ is broken” - means at one point things worked relatively well. The demand for progress might have been the thing that broke it.

            Quite often, I think the balance goes a bit too much in the wrong way towards making things newfangled at the expense of breaking standard functionality. Sometimes being lazy about a project is the better approach.

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              Or you know, google and apple are constantly changing rules and things break on one OS on specific phones because the OEM breaks the API google provides.

              It was just an example, im not getting review bombed because I slaughtered something horribly like the send button doesnt work anymore!

              Sometimes things just happen.

              Edit: also, if youre not working on your app adding features that people ask for, upgrading dependencies over time, the language etc you’re going to lose users and might not even be able to publish anymore, and will even get your app removed after a period of time. Software is ever flowing even if you dont see the changes. I can’t even count the amount of times ive had to change alarms and background tasks because of rule changes by google, and you’d never know as a user.

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      These sorts of reviews hardly ever get seen, they get pushed down by well rated reviews. This game has over 100,803 reviews.

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        Exactly. It’s shitty jokes that nobody will ever read, but they still tank the overall average which is what actually matters for sales.

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          100% dickish but you can either get out of sorts from these sorts of things or recognise that very few will see it and move on with life.

          Steams review system is great in that spikes etc get smoothed out over time and you have to remember for every silly bad review I am sure there are silly positive reviews too.

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    I’m french and I agree with this. Especially parisians, they’re insufferable, soooo fucking full of themselves for no reason.

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      I think it’s a “country/region capital” thing. The more central a city is to the management of an area, the more insufferable the people it produces are.

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    I don’t understand the upvotes here. This is fucking obnoxious to the developers. Nor do I understand why a French Captain is posting this here. I thought he liked his country.

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    I once bought a second hand cabinet from a young French couple who were moving back to France. Cabinet was heavier than I expected and I was planning to take it back by bus. The bus stop at the beginning was like 5mins away which would have been very difficult to go all the way by myself and the guy offered to help me carry it all the way to the bus stop, without me even asking. The stop where I get off was almost next to my flat so that was fine. That French guy lives rent free in my head and is the reason I can’t talk shit about French people any more. It was also a lesson on power of simple good deeds for me.

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    Does anyone know the reason behind hating on the French being a thing? Is this some US import?

    I’m Polish writing this from a French instance but I’m asking without duress /s

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      Edit: I know there is a lot of typos/mistakes… too lazy to correct them

      French person talking, i think the hate for french people is very occidental. Japanese for example loves the french culture and they have a lot of restaurants/stores trying to serve french food or clothes with french words on them adapted to japanese standards.

      For the hate i think it has multiple factors:

      For america it is the Marechal Petain surrendering to the nazis during ww2, and our refusal to invade irak. Making us “surrender monkeys”, which is very funny when you look at france war history.

      For england: it is the victory of the hundred years war and the countless other wars we had with them.

      Germany has always been our ennemy since the fall of the roman empire.

      For Africa and particularly algeria and congo: it is the severe repression against insurgencies in our colonies, government manipulation, our implication in salvery, robbery of natural ressources and cultural assets, and forced conversion to christianity/“good maners” of indigenous populations, all leading to the rise of multiple ultra radicalized groups and terrorism.

      So for every country we are either the bastards who sold themselves to the nazis or the bloodthirsty war criminals who are here only to kill, rape, and steal.

      Added the fact that Paris is one of the most visited cities in the world making it also one of france’s rudest and unwelcoming cities for tourists, And the cultural differences we have with english speaking countries in terms of politeness/expected behaviour, and in the way we are choosing friends/partners. Makes us the perfect hate target.

      But i think if you visit France and go to more remote places and genuinely try to interract with people/try to speak french (altough we will immediatly switch to english, we like when you try and it is seen as a sign of respect) you can find very warm welcoming people. Just dont expect to become BFF immediatly or feeling as part of the family, it does not work like that, and it will be very akward for everyone.

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      Anti-French sentiment is new to USA from the 20th century, portraying the French as weak and needing rescue was a popular approach for those against war in Europe.

      Historically France has been one of the best of friends to the USA.

      Hating the French has typically been a European thing (and very English) because of the whole France dominating Europe time and again over the millennia.

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          British also hate the French because of hundreds of years of war. Canadians also hate the French because we’re basically Temu-British, and also because we hate Quebec.

          Only slightly tongue in cheek.

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            checks out.

            • A québécois who has been told “ooh, you’re one of those people” in Alberta on my way to the NWT.
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              In all seriousness, obviously I can’t speak for all, but I love you guys. My own french language skills may suck, but I’m glad you’re part of our country and I appreciate your distinctiveness and all the other things you bring to the table for us. I think Quebec in particular deserves a lot of credit for preventing the rest of us from becoming so easily Americanized that we would’ve actually ended up the 51st state eventually. Culture’s a hell of a weapon, and you guys defend yours fiercely, and that’s both understandable and awesome in my books. Any teasing is directed mainly at my fellow anglos, and I know from personal experience that some Albertans can be real bigots, so that fits what I saw in my few decades living there too. I hope it’s sufficiently clear that my comment is a joke and that it’s coming from a place of love.

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                Worry not! It was my single bad experience in two and a half year in the NWT / Northern AB area.

                And we also got our fair share of bigots. They seem to be everywhere these days, and borders don’t seem to matter in how they proliferate.

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      There are historical anti-French sentiments, but I honestly don’t think this is related to them much. I think it’s just a meme gen Z decided to run with because they thought it was funny. Like the birds aren’t real thing.

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      Dates from when France refused to be complicit in invading Iraq in 2003. A big anti-french movement was pushed by American conservatives then, and it just became an internet thing afterwards.

      However the French are not really liked outside due to French tourists being arrogant and always saying things (usually food) are better in France.

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          But it got a political and web powered revival due to the 2023 2003 Irak war refusal which likely has a stronger impact on internet culture today than the WW2 has.

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            *2003

            But yeah, do a web search for “freedom fries” and you’ll find this info. Crazy how easily we collectively forget this stuff, but I remember it all. Makes me feel insane

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          Making fun of [country] usually fates back to [country] existence.

          But the current wave and method dates from 2003.

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        This is the real answer. I have a chud 3%er man-child for a father-in-law, and he legitimately hates the French, can’t abide hearing the language, calls French fries “freedom fries”, the whole thing. He doesn’t even even know why though, it’s 100% virtue-signaling conformity with US American chud culture. The same man won’t buy meat labeled as “Halal”. (Though he will buy/eat it if he doesn’t notice the label.) Like I said, utter child.

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      This is a Canadian thing, Quebequois are stereotyped as being incredibly rude and entitled as a general rule, and are constantly trying to force the rest of Canada to adopt their heritage/culture. The dislike of quebequois outside of Quebec kind of merged with Quebec’s hatred of French (for not being French enough) and now all of Canada enjoys a good “French are terrible people” meme.

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        I’ve only visited Montreal twice, but both times everyone was super nice. (My baseline is NYC)

        I think some people band wagon jumped onto the Simpsons bit about cheese eating surrender monkeys, and some Republicans followed their crowd during the bush era.

        For most people I just read it as a “look at me I’m part of the in-group” sad pandering, like when people would repeat “EPIC BACON” or other low grade memes. They just want to feel like part of the group.

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        Canadians think it’s funny because of that; Americans because of W-era anti-French sentiment combined with antielitism and a historical association of French products with luxury; Germans and English people (at least, very possibly more of Europe) think it’s funny because of their countries’ constant historical antagonism; and people in former colonies think it’s funny because fuck the fr*nch.

        Obviously not all of them, but I think it just hits for a lot of people.

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      As a filthy American, it’s just because of propaganda on this side of the pond. Union busters successfully portrayed the French as lazy and entitled because of all the strikes/protests over workers’ rights. Gasp! Oh the horror!

      That’s genuinely it. And the fact that Americans are fucking stupid and eat that shit up, because our dumbass society romanticizes “working hard” and “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.” My father-in-law just the other day made a joke about the French being lazy after I said something along the lines of “we could learn a thing or two from the French on how to protest.”

      Idiots.

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      English surely? The French are ours to fight. We had to fight Hitler when he had a go at them.

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      Americans do it because “cheese eating surrender monkey” is funny, and acknowledging the sacrifice and fierceness of the French and how we’ve relied on them in nearly every conflict is not funny. Therefore Americans do the latter a hell of a lot less than the former.

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      I have never really seen much of hate. The only things I have seen my entire life is the stereotype that french people are rude and bitter. I have no clue how true it is since ive never traveled or seen a ton of french people. The closest would be people from Canada and they are all very nice. I think the biggest example I have seen is they hate US tourists and treat them with a cold shoulder. Considering how rude and entitled a lot of US tourists can be I probably don’t blame them if it is true.

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        From what I’ve heard, it’s a combination of valuing directness and authenticity, and ironically politeness. Which means one, being very straightforward doesn’t feel rude to them like it may in other cultures; two, inauthentic behavior (e.g. excessive smiling or a “fake” personality) is off-putting to them; and three, if you make a faux pas like not beginning an interaction with a greeting, you’re perceived as the rude one and they’re just reacting in kind. Again, from what I’ve heard, this is the worst in touristy places where French natives are surrounded by people who don’t observe French customs.

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      Seems to me to have always been a meme, even before the internet. I suspect it’s some amount of shit-talking going to an extreme, propaganda that has long just turned into an incomprehensible slush, or it’s adopted from other countries’ hate of france being treated as self-explanatory and just becoming a given.

      Very rarely is the hate for france real, it’s pretty much just a joke anytime it’s been used while I’ve been in earshot.

      The joke template is: Anyone: *says something disparaging about the french that is either very vague or about them being snobbish or quick to surrender*

      Everyone else: *agrees without question or elaboration.*

      I’m sure some portion of the US genuinely does view the French in a bad light, but I’ve yet to meet them.

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        As an American, I think a lot of our country really does see the french poorly and fitting for the meme I see it often tied to anti art and anti sophistication attitudes. I suspect it’s partly because enough people are so insufferably pro French that it’s a common annoyance.

        Ultimately though I do think we’re too hard on them by quite a bit. As Americans we ought to be more fair to them as our first allies and our long standing friends and ideological compatriots. Also a lot of our culture was influenced by them as several of our founders were insufferable francophiles.

        Also the joke is stale and anti french sentiments at least in the US are partly tied to their resistance to the Iraq war.

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    Just been on holiday to rural France with very little French. Everyone was lovely, and although few people had much English either, we managed to get by fine just meeting in the middle.

    Anti French sentiment is stupid as hell.

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      Yes. People in Paris can be a bit gruff, for the same reason people in New York can, it’s a massive city that gets the most tourists of anywhere in the whole world, there are constantly millions of things competing for attention. But IMO even there people are pretty nice if you make a little effort, and elsewhere they’re truly lovely.

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        That was also my experience. I’ve been 3 times and never had a problem with French people anywhere I’ve been in the country (not just Paris). They seem to really appreciate it if you made an effort to respect their language and culture and will work with you if you can’t speak the whole conversation in French.

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          I mean, not being able to take a joke proliferates shit stereotypes far worse than anything we could say

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        Y’know what? “Demographic bad” is too lazy and witless to count as a joke anymore. Build some complexity. Poke fun at current events. You think differently when it’s about you.

        “You know what’s the problem with white people? They’re all fucking stupid redneck trash fucking their cousins!”

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        No, there is a unique culture of acceptance to these bullshit lying “joke” reviews on steam specifically. They even added a “this is funny” button to encourage it instead of a button to report the “joke” reviews and ban those accounts from ever reviewing again.

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    I’m Australian and since the 90s insulting The French, Italians, English, Scottish and Germans was an every day thing

    As an Australian. I don’t think I’m better than any people who work hard and are caring for others.

    The French (99% Parisians) seem to think that their language is superior and they are superior and that for me makes me want to insult and annoy them.

    I feel the same towards many other countries that feel they are superior without actually being able to be superior. Just get in your own lane and behave… Stop acting like you’re better than everyone else when you constantly need help from other countries.

    I’m thinking of at least two other European countries when I said that last part.

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      Don’t forget French Canadians. Its rare a colonizer is justified in looking down their nose at another colonizer. After all, the only thing worse than a colonizer is a double colonizer.

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      This is a funny review of a game. Lighten up a little bit on that high horse.

      Every country has their dipshits that farts rainbow

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        Well you certainly have me there mate. Drunkenly posting my opinions is why I got banned on Reddit.

        I guess I didn’t learn my lesson.

        Just like the French didn’t learn their lesson ;)

        Now excuse me while I go back to go quoting Futurama and the Simpsons endlessly and making fun of myself.

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    you all hate-filled mobsters mindlessly repeat english anti-french propaganda

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      I also have to agree, i know its usually meant in jest, but it sits wrong with me to just continually lambast them like this.

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        Yeah, ultimately the french can be annoying with the idealization of their culture, but the anti french jokes drown even that out. I’m not a francophile by any means, but part of what I liked about Expedition was how french it was. Hell it opened me up to the possibility that I may be interested in more french media.

        Yeah turns out for all people mock emo french art, it turns out that at least sometimes I really like it, especially since as I’ve gotten older I’ve grown more and more appreciative of media that’s more artistic.

        Expedition 33 makes me want to contemplate some Claude Cahun photos over a cigarette before having some artisinal cheese, a good crusty bread, and a glass of wine.

        Their language still makes the Dutch look good though.

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        I think the fact that it was completely unprompted makes it especially trashy as a way to behave.

        Both OP and the reviewer seem to want to indulge in bigotry to make themselves feel superior, and think if they pick a target that’s not on the classic protected lists, they won’t get called on it. But it’s still the same ugly activity even when it’s not against a marginalised group.

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    I tried playing E33 and spent a good 12+ hours. I dunno, it feels like it really just does not live up the hype. Am I missing something?

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        The gameplay was just a refined, interesting, and thematically appropriate version of turn based rpg combat. It was good, but it wasn’t something I’d recommend the game for. The story was absolutely incredible. The art was gorgeous. And more than anything I think the game really excels in how it all came together. It’s got ludonarrative sychrony, the art (both visual and musical) consistently added to the story, the voice acting (at least in English) was top notch. It created an immersive experience that made the story and world building shine and left me constantly feeling strongly and asking questions.

        All said, it’s an art game and if someone doesn’t like art games it’s not for them. I’m more likely to recommend it to a cinema nerd than someone who’s only really into competitive gaming.

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    I got filtered by the combat in E33. I think the Mario RPG games have the right of it by only having one extra input for attacks. Going the Legend of Dragoon method of multiple inputs for every single attack and dodge is too tedious for me.

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      I never got very good at it. I feel like they were worried that not enough people enjoy turn-based combat these days and were trying to spice it up.

      I love turn-based combat though and think it would’ve been just fine without the additions.

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        Well for me it’s the other way around. I can’t stand turn based combat, it’s an instant turn-off, but E33 spiced it up just enough for me to enjoy it

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          Never enjoyed turn based combat either, but I’ve been playing baldur’s gate 3 and the story has pulled me through. I’ve actually started enjoying the combat.

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            Same for BG3, but I ended up liking the combat a lot. Going back to Pillars of Eternity afterwards felt bad 😅 but it’s a different kind of turn-based altogether, with positioning being extremely important

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            I seem to only really like turn based when its simultaneous. Like paradox games, CDDA and dwarf fortress.

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      Ironically, you saying E33 has Legend of Dragoon style timing attacks just bumped it to the top of my “how have I not gotten around to playing this yet” list. LoD is one of my top RPGs of all time, and we are either blessed or cursed that we have not gotten a remake of it.

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        Eh… even 26 years ago the gimmick wore thin by the time you reached disc 3. A major distinction between the two is E33 kind of lives and dies by how well you dodge and parry. Unless you specifically build your party with huge HP pools (making every fight a long slog) there are a lot of attacks that just one-shot if they connect. This means in addition to timing inputs for all your own attacks you have to learn input timings for bosses and countless trash mobs.

        A lot of them do that Elden Ring thing where the animators can’t help but sprinkle in some feints to trip you up.

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      Yep, it’s fine for bossfights but ugh did it get tedious for every trash mob fight.

      Also, accessibility should provide an option to ‘auto-win’ these. As a person with limited motor skills it was a huge pain.

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        Yeah, age has slowed my reaction time and I’ve not played this game yet because I’m not at all sure I’m up to it. Shame, because it sounds great.

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          I didn’t find it that difficult tbh, unless you really want it to be. A couple bosses were a bit much but it’s mostly a well balanced game. There’s also a story level difficulty where you don’t really need to worry about reflexes at all. At least that was my experience.

          I usually play on expert now that I’m good at it, and I’m far from a pro gamer. I’m also in my 40s, so not super young or anything.

          Overall it’s one the best RPGs I’ve played in a very long time. Imo it’s at least worth a shot with the 2 hour refund window on steam (or 30 days on gog).

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          I’d still recommend it. I’ve played it on easy and while it does not compensate this it is okay.

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            Well that’s good to hear, thanks. Yes I’m probably going to give it a go at some point, when it’s on sale. The trailer and the soundtrack in the trailer has already kinda sold it to me. I’m just worried it’ll be too frustrating for me - I’m in my 50s so my reaction times aren’t what they were, plus my hands are wrecked. But I do want the experience.

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                Wow, yeah seems like we come from a similar place. my first machine was a Tandy trs80. My family couldn’t afford it, but someone as church (they were all about church) had one as a prestige thing, didn’t know what to do with it, and when we visited, toddler me figured out how to make smiley faces etc on the screen. So they lent it to us. At that time, as I’m sure you remember, computers were ‘the thing of the future’, and they wanted to encourage me. Next someone gave me a ZX81 with a mighty 1k RAM. Couldn’t do much with that. But when the 48k Sinclair spectrum came out with its weird version of basic, I was right on track! Me and my little brothers, all of us under 10, going to the only shop in town that sold computer games. On cassette. Then I got into the BBC B. That fucker was an amazing machine imo. Basic interpreter, but you could code in assembly and compile. What a learning tool. It was about then I started getting curious about AI and artificial life. When I was 14 I wrote a chat bot in turbo Pascal, that was supposed to learn from responses, build a database of associated nouns. Actually the grammar was the most challenging bit. Fuckin tight code too, if I do say so myself. It was the basis of my a level project in computing. I got a B, partly because the examiners couldn’t understand it, but partly TBF because it didn’t really work. Couldn’t pass the Turing test. Based on an Eliza, but I pushed for general. Anyway, then I got into girls and drugs and now I empty dog shit bins in the parks for a living. Ho hum. Had a lot of fun tho so not complaining.

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                  Haha, wild story! The 99/4A was made to program, but how could anyone with that keyboard. Next we got a PC, a monochrome Panasonic ‘laptop’ with 2 5 1/4 disk drives. A little bit of turtle there but I never really caught on and was mostly gaming.

                  And while others had the cool stuff like c64 and later Amiga we always only had a pc, but we know how that turned out.

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              Just play it bro. Played on story mode and absolutely no regrets. The gameplay is almost entirely secondary to the real meat of the game, the story :o

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                Thanks. That’s good to hear. Yeah I just gotta finish up baldur’s gate 3, then go back and finish control - then I really want to play this. The trailer and soundtrack look beautiful, and apparently the story holds up too. Yeah I’m gonna try it, just worried it’ll be frustrating - had a bunch of surgery on my right hand and it’s pretty fucked. But yeah, I do want to experience this.

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            I’m surprised that story mode didn’t help you that much. In my playtroughs it felt like the enemies did barely any damage on that difficulty even if I missed the qtes.

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              It’s been awhile, I’m not sure if there was a difficulty in between which 8 used. Doesn’t change much though since I only have issues with the qte style and still recommend the game.

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                They added an option in the accessibility settings to auto complete the QTEs on offense, fyi. It doesn’t help with dodging or countering unfortunately but it might be worth trying if you ever play it again.

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                  I think I recall that but it’s useless for my needs if it’s not also for defense. I could rant about this but it’s okay.

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      That’s actually why I love the combat. It was super addictive to me and it wouldn’t be the same if it were like Mario RPG where there aren’t really consequences for missing the timing, other than doing slightly less damage or taking slightly more.

      I’ve played my fair share of turn based RPGs and I really appreciate the interactive element of e33. There’s tons of slower paced RPGs out there already so it felt new, even though it’s been done before.

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    Okay, a few things, “French” is a nationality, the nation of France is a country with several different and very distinct cultures and ethnicities. Also the origin of this meme is most likely BRITISH and not American, both from the spelling and also because hating the French with no actual leg to stand on is a very British thing. The rivalry goes back MANY centuries and stems from so many things including the mutually incestuous royal families competing over Empires and more recently from how France shook down during WW2 (far more complicated than usually portrayed in British humour) and just from competing in sports. Some anti French sentiment exists in the US of course, partly from WW2 and “War on Terror” propaganda but mostly because of people growing up on British comedy especially Monty Python and Top Gear and parroting things and also because Paris is notoriously unwelcoming to tourists and for many those two things are their only real experience. To everyone, lighten up, and not everything, especially hating on the French in a nonsense and silly fashion, is about America.

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      Just to note, in the UK it’s specifically the English who have a historical fascination with shitting on the French. Scotland has the Auld Alliance with France so you get far less of it north of the border.

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      The rivalry goes back nearly 1000 years, with William the Conqueror’s takeover, after which he almost immediately went back to war with France. We say frogs, they say rosbif. We say Agincourt, they say Dunkirk. There’s a mutual history that makes it an actual rivalry rather than just randomly hating on the French.

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    Stop with the damn stereotype of “French bad”, even as a joke. The only objectively bad thing about the French I’ve heard was specifically about the locals of Paris being annoyed at foreigners’ pronunciation and rhythm of their language.

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      I’m British so hating the French is a core part of our culture steeped in centuries of tradition and I’m not going to let a god damnned Yank tell me I can’t practice my own cultural traditions

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        I’m Australian so hating the British is a core part of our culture steeped in a couple of centuries tradition and I’m not going to let a god damned Yank tell them they can’t practice their own cultural traditions

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      They committed state-sponsored terrorism on my home country, and Mitterrand (the president at the time) personally authorised it. In response to their terrorist agents being caught they threatened to cut off trade access to Europe for New Zealand.

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    Hating the French and anyone who obnoxiously insists on using their dying language for no reason is the only unfounded hate I can condone, because jokes at the expense of the French by Monty Python are too funny not to play along.