Man, I’m so happy with the way this is going so far. I sure hope she wins the election.
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Honestly, same. That was scary as hell. Then she raised 81 million dollars immediately, started beating him in the polls immediately, started listening to Bernie Sanders, and I’m stoked.
She’s mostly listened to Bernie her whole senate career tbf
I missed that. How has she been listening to Bernie Sanders?
In bed when trying to sleep.
I love the idea of someone listening to recordings of Bernie Sanders to fall asleep. It’s like putting on Gilbert Gottfried to meditate
“I am once again asking you to CLOSE YOUR EYES, AND GO TO SLEEP.”
“THE TOP TEN PERCENT OF PEOPLE ARE SEEING NINETY PERCENT OF THE SHEEP. SLEEP INEQUALITY IS REAL AND NINETY PERCENT OF PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY NOT. GETTING. ENOUGH.”
I like the idea of Bernie Sanders doing the most grassroots info campaign ever: he enters people’s houses at night, lays in bed next to them, and then explains the points and details of a current issue while staring at the ceiling.
Does he spoon me tho?
No, he only sends clear messages and that would give off mixed signals
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Obviously she’s not Bernie Sanders, but apparently she voted in-line with him more than any other senator. I’ve been a huge Bernie fan for years, but I didn’t know that…
She performed terribly in the 2020 primaries and has been very quiet as Vice President. It makes sense you’d be worried. She seems to be rising to the occasion, thankfully. I hope she wins, for America’s sake!
has been very quiet as Vice President
This was my biggest concern, honestly.
I’m glad to see she’s going right in strong, Biden stepping down had me incredibly nervous.
Same. Apparently she was being very careful to not steal Biden’s thunder.
That’s sorta the job of the VP as far as I understand. Lie low, cast tie-breaking votes, and be ready if the President croaks. In those respects, Harris has hit it out of the park
This is like a soccer game, deep into the second half. It’s not decided, but so far, the Blues have been weak on the offense and it’s only a matter of time until the Reds’ constant barrage of attacks breaks through.
Now the Reds have committed to their offensive star, they can’t switch any more, but the Blues have swapped out their aging defensive mid-field captain for an aggressive offense and she’s wasting no time leading those counter-attacks.
Will it be enough? Time will tell. But at least it’s a game again, not a desperate attempt to hold on.
Pleasantly surprised to be wrong about how Kamala would act.
She was sorta handcuffed. If she spoke up more the Orange outfit would have accused her of operating Biden like a sock puppet.
Never before have I been so happy to see the “sassy black woman taking no shit from anyone” stereotype prove itself true
It’s not just her, it’s been her support team so far. Quick fire responses to conservatives and hopping on gen z memes. It feels like her and her team aren’t afraid to ruffle feathers, and it’s about time.
Your candor is refreshing to see on an online forum, thank you for that.
Everyone on the democratic side, Biden fan or not, likely had known that the move to have him not run again had a lot of inherent risk of plunging the whole party into chaos. What I and others didn’t realize was that this debacle was obscuring what everybody clearly wanted to avoid, an authoritarian Trump presidency, leaving us all in despair. Having someone who could get ol’ Don’s knickers in a twist will be a great uniting force for the party and democracy lovers everywhere, and is a source of hope we were all long overdue for.
This is what I was afraid of too, all the calls for Biden to drop out but no one was talking about next steps. Now possibly, for good reason, they were already in the works behind closed doors and already had this plan. That being said, I was nervous as hell right up until all the fundraising numbers came in and the jabs started.
Better to eat crow than the shit we’d be forced to swallow in a second trump term! Forreal though, thank you for coming out and saying it.
Nobody needs to say “I told ya so” but clearly things are moving in an energetic direction, and those of us that are sane in this country should all be pleased! Keep dunking on the fascists and speaking the obvious truth to these morons!
What’s the crow thing about?
Eating crow is a colloquial idiom that means humiliation by admitting having been proven wrong after taking a strong position.
That means to admit being wrong about something.
By far, the most delicious crow I’ve ever eaten.
Honesly one reason kamala is more acceptable to me after biden is she has been part of the administration that put out such a great term and I think one reason it was great was from lessons biden learned from being obama’s vp. I don’t view it as eating crow because I was not zealotly against his stepdown just basically against it. Whats done is done and move ahead. Don’t pick my gov for vp though as we need him in the state and he is to good and im scared to gamble on not getting someone as good to replace him.
Same, I was mostly worried about doing it so close to the election, but Kamela is knocking it out of the park so far
from Vice President Kamala Harris’s rapid response team.
Love to see it lol, she knows what she’s doing
Yep, same position from me. I was wrong. Kamala is looking great. I’m still really fearful and there’s an awful lot of misogyny and racism to overcome yet, but she needs Democrats to turn up and vote and independents to switch to her in swing states and that’s how she’s can get it. The racists and misogynists weren’t ever going to vote Democratic anyway, Trump is their guy through and through.
Biden had a job to do. Stop the boat from rocking. And he did a pretty damn good job of it. I wish he had been able to “job done” and step aside so the Dems could have had real primaries. But wishes ain’t nothing. This isn’t the worst result of that target fixation.
This sudden move has created such a surge in interest that the results may turn out better than if a normal primary happened. (As far as not watching a fascist dismantle our government)
Yeah, in a way, Kamala coming out winning already and fighting has saved all the arguments and Dem on Dem fighting that would have come had Biden stepped down earlier in time for the primaries. It has focussed minds and they’ve been united pretty much instantly.
Can I borrow some of that crow? I was CERTAIN that despite his obvious issues and steadfast refusal to even address them, that Biden stepping out of the race would be the death knell for the US.
Yet here we are and I feel HOPE for the first time in a long time. Kamala feels like she’ll be more than just a gatekeeper against fascism in the short term. I’m still nervous because… politicians are still politicians. But her record has been almost overwhelmingly good, even saying back to her time as AG of California.
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It isn’t over yet, but I will gladly do the same after the election.
I hope Republicans get absolutely crushed to the point that it becomes clear catering to the extremists and conspiracy theorists is not tenable. Then they have 4 years to try to rebuild from the ashes and try to present a reasonable platform instead of something insane.
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For sure, though I said the same thing in 2020 and was disappointed at how close it was. Really a terrible reflection on the country.
I hope they are crushed, learn nothing and double down on it by running with Trump again, this time fully campaigning from prison.
Looking forward to 82 year old trump vs Harris 2028
Followed by 86 year old Trump vs, I dunno, Kelly maybe?
2032 Stop the steal! 🪦
There’s nothing in the constitution that says a corpse can’t run for office. He meets all the requirements.
Trump is there to stay as long as they continue to embrace fascism.
At some point he’ll die.
Yes, until he dies. I assume they’ll continue to invoke St. Trump afterwards.
I prefer the Republicans offer a reasonable alternative so that Democrats can actually be held accountable. Currently Democrats can engage in insider trading, pass laws that help their stocks, continue to give weapons to war criminals, and you still have to come out in droves to vote for them or the country becomes a Dictatorship.
If Republicans are forced to rebuild and offer someone that isn’t going to run the country and everyone’s freedoms into the ground, (or better yet completely crash and burn allowing an actual leftist party the chance to be the 2nd party) then Democrats can actually be held accountable if they pass shitty laws.
I prefer the Republicans offer a reasonable alternative so that Democrats can actually be held accountable.
I used to say (and believe) things like this. The fact is, it cannot exist. Reasonable people don’t run for office as a Republican, full stop.
You want the Republican party to compete with the Democrats by attempting to make things fairer, less corrupt and more honourable than the Democrats?! It’s like expecting Biden to be the youthful candidate, Trump to be the honest and rational candidate and Bernie to be the corporate shill all in one.
No, I meant making a 3rd party actually potentially viable
That’s really not how your previous post reads to me, apart from the thing in brackets.
The rest of my post was saying I want Republicans to not be a dumpster fire that is going down the fascism hole. They don’t need to be “fairer, less corrupt and more honourable than the Democrats,” they just need to not be taking away established human rights when they’re in power so that not voting for Democrats if they aren’t behaving can be a reasonable option.
I think that as long as winner take all first past the post remains the method here there will never be room for more than 2 parties.
I like how you disengenuiously phrase everything. Oh Lordy, I wish the Republicans could force those filthy Democrats to stop their cheating ways, or I swear I’ll faint!!
Meanwhile, there are already Democrats who ARE proposing fixes to your little list. LOL, we don’t need Republicans to hold Democrats accountable, we need them to vote with the Democrats trying to fix the problems. But good luck with that
Yep. If you’re a progressive and you want an actual progressive party, the only way to do that in this current (two party) system, is to shift the Overton Window to the left such that the current Democratic party becomes the center-right party (replacing the far right Republicans entirely), and said new progressive party, the left.
That means voting Democrat (including down ballot, which would be especially important in shifting local politics to the left) for now while continuing to do everything in our power to promote and support progressive candidates.
And this would take several election cycles. The collective ADHD of social media addled brains of Gen Z voters is another massive hurdle. They haven’t seemed to grasp yet just how slow things can move in politics (which by itself isn’t inherently good or bad).
How do you get them to stay engaged for 12+ years when it may seem like nothing is getting better?
According to Insider, Sens. Ossoff and Sen. Kelly were two of only 10 sitting members of Congress last Congress to place their portfolios in blind trusts.
Oh no! I criticised something only most Democrats are doing! That must mean I support Republicans!
At no point did I say Republicans need to hold Democrats responsible. What I said was I want Republicans to present an at least somewhat reasonable alternative so that the voters can hold Democrats responsible without risking the safety of marginalized people.
If 10 Democrats are trying to stop this that’s great, the problem is you still have to vote for the 100 other Democrats that are gleefully taking part because the alternative is literal fascism. Democrats don’t have to actually try to improve people’s lives because what are you going to do, not vote and let the Republicans win?
I would not have expected “I wish there were 2 reasonable candidates to choose from” would be a controversial take, but I suppose American “Politics” is more tribalism than anything else.
Let the Tories in the UK be a terrible warning for them.
Let the American voters follow the example of the UK’s voters this year!
They haven’t been reasonable since Nixon
I think the party would destroy itself long before they become introspective enough to straighten their shit out.
This isn’t just a political party we’re talking about, it’s essentially a cult. Maybe not every Trump voter is in that deep, but enough are to cause a serious schism in the party.
I just hope that this time, the allegedly anti-Trump Republicans have the balls (or lady-nuts) to actually say/do something rather than falling in line and kissing the ring.
Unless we’re still talking Russian kompromat… If that’s the case, whatever they have on these people must be truly horrific.
Agreed, and wow, you can really sense the working cognitive function, I have to admit. Especially when only one of the candidates has it now.
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Who fits that description that they would have even considered nominating?
I agree in general about nominating someone awful, though.
And I’m also happy to see that not only is she doing much better so far than I thought but all the energy she seems to have brought and seeing people get amped up. Haven’t seen that for a very long time.
Yeah, that would have been terrible messaging. I think of the top contenders, Cooper is the oldest at 67. For that reason, I hope they go with one of the others. Kelly is 60, Shapiro is 51, and Beshear is 46.
If she doesn’t you know there are a lot of people who don’t care if a fascist wins. There’s no way Trump can win this if the people show up to vote.
I guess you didn’t see the article about her statement regarding Israel/Palestine.
Already got the “totally a progressive who wouldn’t vote for Biden because they just learned Palestine exists” concern trolls to make sure everyone knows that she lost their support already 🙄
What could go wrong now? The left is notorious for abandoning its leaders for the smallest mistakes.
Could it happen?
What left?
He thinks Dems are left 😂
I’m just a normal human being that uses words in normal human context and not like a demented psychopath that needs to define each meaning for every possible dumbass who thinks they are smart.
No I don’t think they are particularly left, but they are left in relation to the other party and they are considered to be the left for that very reason (at least!).
Again, you are embarrassing yourself with comments like that. You are like a little child that listens to a teacher and tries to find bizarre situations in which what the teacher says is not true. Its pointless and dumb.
Bye.
Again, you are embarrassing yourself with comments like that. My left nut dumbass.
Truly artistic.
Being left of something doesn’t make it left.
A rather large majority says the democratic party is the left. That is why I used the word, not because I wanted to talk what they are and what they aren’t. That is how normal people usually do. Normal people don’t nitpick about every single word and try to deconstruct them to find faults when the topic is something else.
Which people say they are left? I’m not nitpicking, you are fundamentally wrong about using the term. It wasn’t a throwaway word, it is essential to the meaning of your post, and this incorrect. You can’t expect to throw disparaging remarks around when your understanding is not right.
My left nut dumbass.
Exactly. No matter how far you lean to the right, your left nut is always left
I couldn’t say it better myself! Some trolls will go out of their way to find a reason for insults over a single insignificant word. Wether that reason is linguistic or ideological or just pointless in every way.
You could say the most benign banal thing and they will jump on it like crazy people. It’s normal, it’s Internet, but it’s also sad.
Looks at Clinton… Looks at JFK… Looks at Jimmy Carter…
What the fuck are you even talking about? I can think of a lot of small mistakes that could have ruined any of the examples I provided but they are all LEFT heroes.
I’m sorry you are offended and agitated for some reason, I have no idea why. There is even a saying that the far right is the leftist second biggest enemy, right after another leftist they only share 95% of opinions with.
They asked you a valid question - what are some significant examples of what you are talking about? They gave examples of the opposite of what youre saying being true.
What examples did they show? A president who was not reelected? Someone who was almost impeached?
So you have no examples of your own. Got it.
Not for trolls, thank you.
Bye.
When they take the memes and four-panel comics seriously
Gentlemen, this leads me to my next point. Don’t smoke crack.
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Urgh, articles about tweets.
“So think of it: They get me to that position, and then their campaign says, ‘I’m the prosecutor, and he is the convicted felon.’ That’s their campaign,” Trump said. “I don’t think people are going to buy it.”
“We approve this message”
That’s it. Don’t reward a newssite for this shit.
I’d rather more people rewarded the news site for it then rewarding twitter by going there directly
I took one for the team and went to the article, so no-one else had to.
I approve your effort.
This just rewards both of them, because the embedded Twitter elements are still there
Eh, it was pretty funny though. And it’s a complete character change from Biden’s campaign.
How quickly people forget the Dark Brandon clapbacks
They didn’t seem too successful in the news cycle. I still think it would be worth a try if Harris only referred to Trump as “the convicted pedophile”. Like, 1-up the orange Mussolini at his own stupid tactics.
I still think it would be worth a try if Harris only referred to Trump as “the convicted pedophile”.
He hasn’t been convicted of being a pedophile yet. Best we can do without walking the line as regards defamation is something like “convicted felon, found liable for rape, GOOD FRIEND of Epstein who is currently fighting for your vote because it’s the only real chance he has to escape the law and he knows it.”
But he’s convicted and a pedophile, why do we have to do it by the book if he wins by making up whatever he wants, was my point.
her clip is pretty good though:
Trump: And then their campaign says I’m the prosecutor, and he is the convicted felon-[CUT] Harris; “I am Kamala Harris and I approve this message”
it’s a nice truncation.
Unfortunately tweets by famous people are news, whether we like it or not. At least this way I don’t give Elon a page view.
Amazing. I respect Joe Biden and think he had a pretty good term overall, but stuff like this shows just what’s been lacking.
On a related note, please let Trump be dumb enough to accept a debate with Kamala.
Old Biden is too civil for Trump in general.
He comes from the era when politicians were civil to each other even if they vehemently disagreed. Well before Newt Gingrich started characterizing Democrats as evil.
Plus Harris is from California and we have a pretty good vicious streak on a cultural level. Its just not really highlighted cause it usually manifests in weird or quiet ways. A good example is that in my area quite a few people became anti-anti-gay marriage because the Mormons bussed in folks from out of state for some rally which was pro prop 8(?). The insult came about because fuck folks who dont even live in California affecting our internal politics, Californian pseudo nationalism at its finest.
If Trump were a Palestinian child he’d be all over it though.
Joe Biden is “civil” in the most meaningless, useless sense of the war. I don’t know why people are being precious about his legacy.
Preach. Having someone call Trump on his bullshit and is so god damn refreshing. Biden just wanted to brag about his record. He did a lot, that’s great, but the campaign needs to highlight what Trump’s policies are and what is at stake.
It’s so sad these elections are no longer about what policies each candidate promises to apply if elected but about attacking the other candidate.
But the Democrats have to play by the current rules. Taking the moral high ground on the campaign trail was not going to get them elected. One can argue that the moral obligation is not to let Trump and his cronies win so that more reasonable policies can be put in place.
It’s so sad these elections are no longer about what policies each candidate promises to apply if elected but about attacking the other candidate.
'Twas always thus.
When we first got cable TV and access to US channels, I was shocked that US campaigns were almost entirely “my opponent is a crook, so vote for me” attack ads. At the time, Canadian politics was still biased towards making promises (that the politicians never kept).
That was 1981.
criticising trump seems to play less of a role than progress in her campaign.
Honestly, I’d be just as fine with him running with his tail between his legs. Tells you all you need to know either way.
Only if she gets lots of news coverage calling him out for running away.
Then people will just say he was too scared… I think buying already agreeing to the second one he kind of shot himself in the foot.
It’s obvious, she is the better candidate. And most Americans are aware of it to. I just hope, they go to the pols when the time comes.
The problem is getting voters in swing states who don’t like Trump to the polls. If all of them voted, he’d be utterly destroyed.
Historically if Americans vote, Republicans lose. That’s why they work so hard to get people to not vote.
It’s like 40% of people vote, or some other ridiculously low number.
In 2020 it was 67%, but that was up from 2016.
They just need this team to keep hitting the Trump campaign quickly all day, everyday. He pretty much can’t stop embarrassing himself.
That’s right, and no matter how in the bag it looks, everyone needs to take that energy to the polls.
The return on investment here I don’t think is getting the right attention. That posting on 🐦 was probably 5 minutes of actually work When I found it a few hours later, it’s at 2.1m views. AND she’s setting funds raising records.
That post is amazing in so many ways
Agreed. If Trump has taught us anything, it’s that politicians need to have a stronger digital presence to compete. It doesn’t matter that you’re a better person with better policies if your opponent is all over the Internet lying and trash talking about you. Responding only via press releases is too late in the cycle to correct misinformation. That needs to be nipped in the bud immediately. Harris’s team needs to refute his lies the same day he posts them, ideally the same hour.
I’m not complaining but I’m genuinely wondering if the dnc has been holding this woman back. I feel like I haven’t seen this fire coming from her before and I’m loving it.
I’m starting to think this was a pre-planned bait and switch. Let MAGA and the Russian trolls waste thier energy and money going after Biden, painting him as old and senile. Then Kamala comes in and goes all scorched-earth on Trump.
Whether it was planned or not is not all that important though, the result is a thing of beauty.
It may be comforting to think that, but I reckon it genuinely took them by surprise just how unable he was to perform under pressure. He may be able to hold a normal conversation in a small room with a couple of people, but get the lights on him, him own voice being amplified around and a live broadcast, and the man just wasn’t able to compete. He looked weak and old.
While Trump lives for that. He’s a fucking gameshow host. His ideal dinner date would be himself, but louder. What he actually says is incoherent nonsense, but he’s loud and aggressive and the MAGA hats lap that shit up.
Don’t think that was pre planned. But I think waiting for Trump to officially accept the nomination as republican candidate was a deliberate move. The timing was almost too on the nose, and it seems some people already knew Biden was going to drop out before that.
Maybe this shit was all stewing in Kamalas head for years and she’s just unloading off her chest lmao. But in truth I hope thus is the result of a competent team, cause I want this to keep coming. Fucking tired of being nice to Trump supporters after they acted like absolute pieces of shit for years.
I agree, that’s absolutely plausible. I don’t pretend to know enough to talk about likelyhoods and probability.
All that really matters is that the switch happened.
I don’t think it was pre-planned until the terrible debate performance.
Having said that, I definitely think they timed his dropping out to be after the GOP convention, and even after the Sunday political shows. That timing was just too perfect to be a coincidence. The GOP spent the entire convention focusing on the wrong target. Then the Sunday politics shows happened. Then immediately after that came the announcement he was dropping out, and almost at the same time he was endorsing Kamala.
I suspect he knew he was dropping out weeks before he announced it, mainly because the way everybody endorsed Kamala has been so seamless. The democrats are famous for looking disorganized, and having their fights in public. I strongly suspect they went to many key democrats and did whatever wheeling and dealing was needed for them to endorse Kamala when Biden dropped out, while making sure to keep it quiet.
Because it’s hard to keep secrets, it was probably a relatively small group of people who knew. But, I’d guess that at least 10 key democrats were informed early and brought on board.
I just had that thought yesterday because it surprised me how well this played out. Glad I am not the only one :)
My assumption is that they wanted to keep Biden’s “Centralist” persona. Biden probably wants to work with MAGA.
Kamala doesn’t, for good reason.
Why work with mofos who proudly wear shit like this?
Im wearing a straw hat. I’m a a southern man. She aint perfect, lot of cop in her.
Better than what we had . We need to pull for her.
Of course they were holding her back. I don’t think there’s any argument they weren’t.
If she had been out and doing town hall events, it would have drawn attention to the fact that Biden wasn’t doing those things. Normally an energetic VP is a great partner who can double the number of events a candidate can do. But, the Biden campaign was too worried about her making him look old and feeble.
she probably has been, but it doesn’t get coverage because no one ever cares about VPs.
except for Cheney probably but that’s another story.
there’s no reason to engage in conspiracy theories. she’s been a VP to a walking corpse for 4 years, and she’s probably been getting ready for this the entire time… they say VPs are “a heartbeat away” from presidency for good reason, and Biden at his best didn’t look like he had many of those left.
she’s always been personable in interviews, but her podium speech needed work. she’s probably been working on it, and mind that she’s been campaigning and speaking this whole time; it’s just that the media never cared because she was just a VP… 4 years of practice can do a lot of good.
She’s bringing a lot of very needed fire.
Leaning into the “she’s a cop” thing, which, fine, might as well.
Back the blue might have a double meaning now.
Lol, my neighbor across the way put one of those up in 2020, we chit chat so while watering the garden I said “man I wasn’t going to vote, but because of your sign yeah, go Biden”. I mean I was… But anyway he took down the sign lol.
Haha! Nice!
It’s funny because I’m a registered libertarian. But the times are what they are.
“Back the blue, no matter who?” I mean, I’m not going to put it on a Punisher sticker or anything, but…
Clever
Back shots for the blue
Bazinga!
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Sheldon!
Moderates love that stuff.
Wild what you can do when your entire campaign isn’t proving you aren’t dead.
Chef’s kiss.
What a fucking troll. I love it.
She crawled from depths of 4chan
Hire a bunch of god tier TikTok meme shorts creators, and just start churning out shorts ridiculing him.
Her and the team need to go hard and fast. She’s not charisma 101, though she has some. Her real strength is her ability to disseminate and spread information as someone whose career was to become an expert on any information presented, when used alongside existing resources. What does this mean?
She will continue to tarnish Trump’s image in the eyes of all the doubtful while increasing her own standing across the board with the exception of the staunch Republican and MAGA supporters. This means hop in the truck and proceed at ramming speed. Every single historically idiotic thing Trump has said. Every piece of racism his team puts out. All the sexism and all the calls to violence against certain groups. Call them out. We can all agree that bipartisanship was the game for a long time, back when the Republicans still had some spine and integrity left here and there. What the Nation needs right now is exactly what she can almost uniquely bring, and we are seeing what I suspect is just the beginning of this little war.
Case in point, I had rarely heard of any of the good things Biden did during his presidency, even though he’s had some good policies. It really felt like radio silence from him except when Trump was involved. It was so frustrating that our country’s in decline and it just felt like getting stonewalled by the guy supposed to fix it.
Meanwhile it feels like Kamala’s actually trying. I’m hearing good things about her left and right. She’s only mentioning Trump when it’s a direct attack to pressure him for all his evil actions.
Image is everything. Charisma bolsters and protects image. The shitty thing is that Biden has done a TON. Yet so many people aren’t aware he has done much at all. This isn’t some humblebrag situation, he needed to speak out loudly about those accomplishments.
with the exception of the staunch Republican and MAGA supporters.
I wouldn’t be so sure about making an exception. But I’m not american, just someone in country 4 km across Pacific Pond.
Anyone want to wager that Trump refuses to take part in another debate?
Already did
There’s no way in hell they allow him on stage with an adult that can string together a complete sentence
I don’t think he is as senile as Putin, so probably he will try again.
Great meme
Fuck you. I’m pulling the other way. There are smart girls who can run it if thwy want to. Probably do better than us men did
Meme reads both ways. Also making fun of us men with “every woman has bigger balls than men do”
Sorry if I caused offense. Was talking out of my head due to an accidental poisoning.
You didn’t respond to me with the comment you are probably referring to. :) However, I read that as not such a bad outburst.
