Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a removed?
Only with their enthusiastic consent.
It’s me. Im the removed.
RIVERSIDE, MOTHA FUCKA!
Good for him. And good for lots of other people, probably. But we all kind of figured, right? That man flirts with everyone, with impressive sincerity.
It’s clear he contains too much sexual energy to have a limited focus.
It’s always so eye-opening to read about a larger-than-life personality like Brady considering themselves an introvert and being bullied in school. I am glad he got to a point where he is happy and can share his story.
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I can understand if it’s cast iron
Cast iron, non-stick, ceramic. I just can’t get enough. Don’t get me started with the Asian beauty, wok. Not strictly a pan but look at those curves
Sexy, sexy pans…
Can you both keep a lid on it?
Oh no. It’s Lucas with the lid off!
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If only they addressed that in the article…
“I am pansexual,” he says, meaning that he is attracted to persons regardless of their sex or gender.
Brady puts it another way: “Bisexual — with an open mind!” he says with a chuckle.Oh wait they did. Read the article.
It really gets under my skin when folks frame bisexuality as bigoted pansexuality.
Edit: I’m not saying he wasn’t making a lighthearted joke and I’m not even really saying he shouldn’t have said it. I’m just sad that for a lot of people this may be the first time they hear about pansexuality and assume it means that people who say they’re bi are transphobic, enbyphobic, or something else.
Yeah tons of people use the label “bisexual” even though by strict definition they might actually be pan. And that’s totally fine, you don’t always have to use the most specific terminology.
I probably lean harder pan than bi, but the bi flag is too nice to not like it.
I’m not a pansexual because I refuse to fuck people with green skin, regardless of gender status.
We all have our types I guess.
Exactly. Unfuckable.
Sulley tho…
What about an olive hue to their skin complexion? Why do you love everyone except Mediterranean people?
They don’t appreciate your absurd twist of the term olive complexion, but I do.
And it’s because the Mediterraneans won’t nut up and reestablish the Phoenician Empire.
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For those who might not have the best English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan#prefix
*word-forming element meaning “all, every, whole, all-inclusive,” from Greek pan-, combining form of pas (neuter pan, masculine and neuter genitive pantos) “all,” from PIE pant- “all” (with derivatives found only in Greek and Tocharian).
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Good luck trying to eradicate every word with multiple meanings from the English language, I guess
What is a close-minded bisexual?
Only eats at a restaurant that has at least one Michelin Star, wears only black socks, listens only to music that was popular when they were between the ages of 12-18 years old, insists that video games and cartoons peaked when they were age 22.
A closed minded bisexual would be someone that is only attracted to cisgender people of either sex. So only females that identify as women and males that identify as men.
A pansexual person can be attracted to females that identify as women, men, neither, both, etc. Same with males that identify as men, women, neither, both, etc.
When he said “open mind” it was a joke. You don’t choose who you’re sexually attracted to. If you’re not attracted to trans people, that’s fine and is no reflection on whether or not you’re a bigot.
You may know this, but I’ve run into several who don’t, so I want to clarify.
Bisexuality isn’t transphobic. Transphobes are transphobic.
Good lord, not being sexually attracted to trans folks is not transphobia.
Being bisexual doesn’t mean you can’t be attracted to trans folks though.
Fucking preach. I’m bisexual and I’m attracted to anyone my brain and heart click with. Which is very few people. Luckily I found another me to date, then marry, and be togevva foreva with.
Bi = 2
Bisexual = attracted to people of the other sex AND my own = 2
So many people don’t get that.
If you’re refusing to date someone solely because they’re trans, then yeah it kinda is. Things like genital preference, the person “passing”, etc are preferences you’re certainly allowed to have, but are going to apply on a case by case basis. If you’re otherwise attracted to someone and the only deal breaker is the fact that they’re trans, that’s by definition a prejudice against trans people.
Edit: listen nobody is forcing yall to date a trans person. What I’m saying is that most valid hang ups someone might have don’t apply to every trans person, there’s gonna be trans people with the junk/body type/voice/whatever else that you’re into. So refusing to date someone just because they’re trans is the prejudiced part, not whatever personal preference you have that’s gonna stop you from dating some or most trans folks.
No? If you’re a cis straight person, you’re going to be attracted to people of the other gender. For most people, this is both attraction to the behaviour (attracted to femininity or masculinity respectively), and the attraction to the specific gentials.
If I was 100% in that cis straight guy box, then for a female trans person to meet those requirements, they’d have to be fairly indistingishable from a cis female. That’s very rare, for example most people would not have had a vaginoplasty. If I was to date a trans guy, then I’d personally be put off by the masculinity, even if they had the genitalia I was into.
Personally, I’m not 100% straight because I’m more flexibile with the genitalia, so long as they have that femininity. But I 100% understand why other people wouldn’t date a trans person because they’re trans, even if they were fine being friends with them. After all, I wouldn’t date a guy even though I’m fine being friends with them, that doesn’t make me homophobic.
Hey there. Trans person here to tell you that you are just straight up wrong. We haven’t been fighting for rights for years so people can backtrack on the basic rules of sexuality out of misplaced identity zealotry. The whole point of most queer dialogue is that you can’t control who you’re attracted to. Magically changing that is actually just another way to harm trans people in the eyes of potential cis allies.
Bigotry is when you attack a person with prejudice. It’s not if a person just doesn’t date a person. No one is owed sex. Not getting sex is not a prejudice nor is it oppression.
And if a person didn’t go the distance to attack people they simply aren’t attracted to, attacking someone by calling them prejudiced just cuz they won’t have sex with someone is an incorrect use of the meaning of that word. This breaches on being malicious with intent to harass.
Yep, right here. The perfect example of how we shouldn’t do inclusion. No, I don’t want to date a trans person. It’s a preference. Not prejudice. I am into biological women. Why would you care? It’s not your call to make what I can or can’t be into and it’s not yours to call me prejudiced because I don’t want to date a trans person.
Are we now going to see biphobia from trans people too? Fuckin A. As you were, we are used to it.
People don’t choose who they are attracted to, there’s nothing transphobic about not being attracted to trans people
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Going to? They have always been here, but like the rise of TERFs or Cubans in Florida, now that a lot of the LGBTQ spectrum has gotten some progress–enough that the T part of that list is being addressed–some people are gonna play the “got mine, fuck you” game.
It’s a good reminder that even people who agree with 99% of what you do can still be assholes somewhere deep down in their cold hearts.
Trans women are female. Trans men are male.
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Wait, you can read articles?
So somebody wanted to broaden their understanding by asking a simple question and you decided to be a dick?
Maybe they didn’t have time to read the article and thought somebody would help.
The previous comment getting so many votes is saddening on lemmy. Someone asked a question that wasn’t bigoted and instead of taking the opportunity to educate another human they took the time to quote the article and type up a reply that was dismissive. These types of issues can only be resolved with education and someone taking the extra time to put someone else down is definitely not an ally.
Right. I personally struggle with a lot of the “terms” these days - not because I think they are wrong, only because I don’t always understand what they mean.
On Reddit, when I saw them used, I would ask for clarification and I’d learn something.
Being dismissive to people trying to learn isn’t going to bring them into the ally space.
The definition I originally came across is a pansexual person is not attracted by gender but by the personality. So no rules or restrictions on sex organs or gender identity or presentation. It’s really attraction to the person underneath above all else.
don’t mean to be ignorant but how is that not just a word for non-superficial bisexual?
The “bi” part of bisexual implies a gender binary. Some people like that, some people don’t. Pansexual is just an alternative that is explicit in its attraction to non-binary people. Some people aren’t attracted to non-binary people, and use bisexual as a label to specifically mean only an attraction to men and women. Other people who might be described as pansexual describe themselves as bisexual simply because it is a more well known word. It all varies.
“Non superficial bisexual” isn’t the worst definition of pansexual, but saying pansexual is shorter.
I’ve always felt that bi = people of my sex or people of the other sex. Nothing about the word “bisexual” implies any gender to me, it just means I’m not explicitly gay or straight!
Allow me to be more clear about why I said that.
It is mostly because of the words themselves. The “bi” prefix means 2, or twice, etc. That would mean the word bisexual literally means “twice sexual”. Sexuality is inherently related to gender because it is a quality defined by relationships between people’s genders, and bisexual thus (literally, but often not functionally) means a person who is sexually attracted to two genders.
The “pan” prefix on the other hand, means all, or including everything. Thus we can assume pansexual to (literally) mean a person who is sexually attracted to any and every gender that there is or could be.
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The “pan” prefix on the other hand, means all, or including everything. Thus we can assume pansexual to (literally) mean a person who is sexually attracted to any and every gender that there is or could be.
The “pan” prefix on the other hand, means all, or including everything. Thus we can assume pansexual to (literally) mean a person who
iscan be sexually attracted to any and every gender that there is or could be.___Hetero, bi, and gay people are not attracted to any or every of their preferred gender. It’s a small difference in language but I think pansexuals would agree that phrasing it as “is sexually attracted to any and every gender” implies pansexuals are out there trying to bang anything with a pulse whereas the truth is just that gender or sexuality are not barriers to them. I guess it would be more accurate to say “pansexuals are sexually attracted to partners independent of sex and/or gender identity”?
This is probably oversimplified, but maybe helpful:
Straight - consider themselves sexually attracted to opposite gender/sex
Gay - consider themselves sexually attacted to same gender/sex
Bi - consider themselves sexually attracted to either gender/sex
Pan - consider themselves sexually attracted
I agree that pansexuality doesn’t mean an attraction to every individual of every gender, yes. I should have been more direct in how I said this part, but when I say “a person who is sexually attracted to every gender that there is or could be” I am just trying to communicate what you said. I suppose I would personally see a distinction between “attraction to a gender” and “attraction to a person of said gender”, where the prior means overall sexual compatibility with that gender, and the latter means a literal instance of someone feeling attracted to someone else. But I can see how there isn’t any actual clear distinction between the two, I should say it different.
I feel as a straight man with few connections to the LGBT community that I should be able to define the differences between Pan and Bi
makes sense, thanks
The “bi” part of bisexual implies a gender binary
No. Historically it kind of did, but the definition has evolved since the existence of non-binary started to be widely accepted in LGBT+ circles. Now it just means attracted to more than one gender. Pansexual is a subcategory of bisexual.
The way I (a bisexual) have always interpreted the difference is that pansexuals feel the same attraction to all genders and that bisexuals feel different attraction to different genders. I identify as bi because I definitely feel different kinds of attractions towards men, women and enby’s.
From what I can tell bisexual can mean a couple of things depending on who you ask. Either an attraction to two genders eg. cis men and women, or perhaps an attraction to multiple but not all genders. Pansexual on the other hand means an attraction to all, including trans or nonbinary people, etc.
I’d assume people that are bi are attracted to biological males and biological females, but not necessarily transsexuals or anything else on the sexuality/gender spectrum.
Sorry, that’s incorrect. Bisexuals are attracted to more than one gender, and thats any of the genders on the gender spectrum. Pansexuals are less specific; most define it as gender not being the primary part of their attraction. Some pansexuals are only interested in certain genders, others consider themselves open to any gender. The overlap for these two terms is pretty big, but there are a few differences nonetheless.
“Bisexuality is a whole, fluid identity. Do not assume that bisexuality is binary or duogamous in nature: that we have “two” sides or that we must be involved simultaneously with both genders to be fulfilled human beings. In fact, don’t assume that there are only two genders. Do not mistake our fluidity for confusion, irresponsibility, or an inability to commit. Do not equate promiscuity, infidelity, or unsafe sexual behavior with bisexuality. Those are human traits that cross all sexual orientations.” (The Bisexual Manifesto, Bay Area Bisexual Network, c. 1990)
Lover of cookware
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I’m pansexual.
In doing my research, both with myself and just with the world, I couldn’t say if I was bisexual, because I had to really see what that was, especially because I really have not gotten a chance to act on anything. So, I came to pansexual because — and I know that I’m completely messing up the dictionary meaning — but to me, pan means being able to be attracted to anyone who identifies as gay, straight, bi, transsexual or non-binary. Being able to be attracted across the board. And, I think, at least for me for right now, that is the proper place. I took pan to mean that not only can I be attracted to any of these people or types physically, but I could be attracted to the person that is there.Universal Boner Donor.
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Pansexuality is broader than bisexuality, and people who identify as pansexual may be attracted to people of all genders. Bisexuality is the attraction to two or more genders, but not necessarily all.
The terms broadly overlap, but the distinction matters to some people and that’s okay.
To clarify, most people had no idea what bisexual was before David Bowie put a label on it in the late 70s and I doubt people who are calling themselves bisexual are doing it to be exclusionary. Shit, people still have trouble admitting the Starman liked women and men to this day and the guy was dumped by the love of his life for that revelation.
I know we don’t use this term much here but
Hella based.
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Two or more. If you’re really dead set on saying bisexuality is inherently sexist or transphobic, that’s your own thing to deal with. I don’t get the sense that this is in good faith.
17 plus genders? Amateur numbers.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/why-this-fungus-has-over-20-000-sexes
Every time you complain, we add 5 more.
Or just read the article before you post something so ignorant.
The very first time I saw Brady on tv (circa 2000) I was watching whatever it was with my mom and we both presumed he was gay then and there. It was a little interesting just because there were so few evidently gay people on tv at the time in such prominent roles.
But yeah…
“Bisexual — with an open mind!”
seems about right too.I think (hope) that hundreds of years from now, most of the human species will achieve this higher form of love and acceptance. It’s so silly to not freely love whom you love.
They seem like a lovely family :)
Also… looks like Redditors are starting to flood it here with their uber-insightful commentary.
Bah. Not my deal.
But you be your best you, and of course Wayne Brady should be his best him.
And everyone else is a Wayne Brady sexual. This works out.
I thought this was from The Onion.
It’s People magazine, so it’s close enough.
People are like onions?
Well…they do both have layers
And they both make me cry when I chop them up…
Jesus Christ this is already just reddit again, any mods gonna enforce rule 1 with this bigoted bullshit in the comments orrrrrrrrr
We’re doing our best. Wanna help? Report messages that violate our rules.
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Interesting take. Sorry that I can’t read all comments all the time, I do have a life you know. I like to think I will eventually read all comments, but if people would report comments, that would really help.
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You’re the problem dude.
Could you give some examples, or are you just here to be angry? We try to walk the thread between deleting hatespeech and not censoring opinions. Sometimes we get it wrong, so do let us know if you think you know better.
Good on you for staying civil, that person has a stick so far up their bum they’re spitting leaves. Sorry you have to deal with these kinds of people…
Actually the first time I got into such a conversation lol, this community is great (:
Just scroll down. There’s dumb anti-bi shit everywhere. Go and look for yourself. I’m not gonna do your job for you.
I mean… it’s not really my job. But if you are just here to complain, I will indeed not respond anymore.
The entitlement here is amazing.
Your behavior is exactly the shit I wouldn’t want on my instance.
fuck off kevin.
I’d recommend you do the same.
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Okay, have a good day sir.
That’s what I thought.
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I hope you can find some peace in your life.
you forgot to add the /s
i hope
Lol nah, I left that shitty instance of yours for a reason. Only reason I’m even here is because you are flooding every other and Lemmy doesn’t allow individuals to block instances yet
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Just don’t act all surprised when your negative opinions about other people cause other people to have negative opinions about you.
Now him and Dave really got beef.
I know shouldn’t, but whenever I hear pansexual, I hear Jay of Jay and Silent Bob screaming “I’ll fuck anything that moves!” in my head.
And I just think of cookware.
my love for you is like a truck
Do you like to making fuck?
I already loved his character in HIMYM (James, Barney/NPH’s gay brother) so much because of the trade in sexual orientation between the two actors and their characters. This makes it even better <3
I would never have guessed this, and yet I am also in no way surprised.
I don’t think I’ve ever been surprised when someone came out, aside from a couple of friends when I was much younger.
Good for him. That said, he is the most low-energy game show host I have ever seen. When my daughter was first born, we didn’t have much to do, so we would watch daytime TV and his hosting on Let’s Make a Deal is just terrible (if he’s still doing it). It sounded like he was bored and didn’t want to be there every episode.
Sorry, I had to rant about Wayne Brady for a second.
Did you just call Wayne Brady a removed??
No, no choking will be happening.
I wonder if it’s just bad direction? Wayne Brady is one of the funniest people I’ve seen on TV - but I haven’t seen him hosting anything. So it can’t be him. It has to be someone directing him.
He has a certain energy. I’d call it smooth energy.
It’s fantastic, but smooth energy doesn’t work for game shows.
Yeah, he was really funny on Whose Line, but wow is he awful as a game show host. I don’t know why, but he is terrible.
Agreed. He can sing jokes on the spot and dance anyone into a corner if left to his own devices. Bad acting isn’t coming from him. It would have to be stamped out by someone else
I saw one episode, but now that you mention it, yeah that’s the vibe I got as well. It felt like he was trying to emulate Howie, but it might have just been really boring.
good for him for feeling comfortable being authentic in the public eye. i’m still working on uncovering my True self.
