• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    Classic government censorship. Just the threat qualifies. Kimmel and Colbert should be suing their networks and the Trump Administration for censorship and violating their 1st Amendment Rights.

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      They probably don’t have standing to sue. The First Amendment is a restriction on government and not the networks, and the Trump administration’s assault on the First Amendment is against the networks and not the hosts.

      The fascists are being more careful about who and how they target their enemies than people realize.

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        It has come out that most of the execs at ABC were against the Kimmel “suspension,” but the few top decision makers were concerned about Trump pulling their broadcast license.

        So this was a decision to censor based on pressure from the administration. That is classic censorship, and a violation of the 1st Amendment.

        It was the same for Colbert. If CBS wanted government approval for their sale, they had to shut him up. Again, classic censorship.

        Each of those hosts makes millions each year, and probably had another 20 years on their careers. Then there are all the crew members out of work. It would be a great class action lawsuit.

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          But against who?

          The Trump admin didn’t fire them, and the networks can fire them. It’s the network that has standing to sue the administration, but they won’t.

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            I can’t imagine that the ACLU isn’t interested in this. They are probably studying all the variables, and seeing what else is coming, before announcing anything.

            It’s important to remember that the ACLU isn’t a law firm you can hire. They are an activist organization, and they look for cases that can demonstrate specific legal/ political points they want to make, and create legal precedents that will influence all future litigation.

            So it’s possible that this case is perfectly viable, but doesn’t have the elements they are looking for, so they let a normal law firm handle it. Think of all the race cases that end up with one of the big civil rights lawyers. Any of those cases would look like good cases for the ACLU, but in many cases they’ve already fought similar cases in the past, creating legal precedent for the rest of the law world to follow. They’ve already done their part by creating precedent, now it’s time for other lawyers to benefit by that.

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    If donny taught us anything it’s that we can insult whoever we want - Jimmy only reacted to and followed donny’s own playbook.

    donny should be flattered.

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    One thing that has been an eye-opener about all of this is how much cowardice there is in the U.S… It’s easy to talk a big game about free speech and freedom of the press, but when push comes to shove, most buckle.

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    • Benjamin Franklin
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    And this is why you never give these people what they want.

    Imagine the shitshow if the FCC pulled ABC’s broadcasting license for hurting the administrations feelings. They should have played hard ball.

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    Actually, that makes a lot of sense…

    Given that Trump is the best president ever (I’m sure I have heard people say so), then anyone who opposes him is, ipso facto, an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.

    The more I think about it, the more obvious it is. I mean, why even have another election?

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          In order:

          1. Raping child sex slaves
          2. Removing due process
          3. Removing public health programs and trust in science
          4. Siccing government agents on non-violent illegal immigrants
          5. Siccing government agents on legal citizens
          6. Raping unconsenting adults
          7. Amplifying anti-LGBT+ calls to action
          8. Stripping women of their bodily rights
          9. Whitewashing history
          10. Incorporating religious beliefs into policy direction
          11. His world shifting decision making while battling clinical narcissistic behavior and dementia
          12. Everything else

          Last. He shits his pants.

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    I bet you if more of our corporate leaders demure to his craven demands that he’ll just go away and be reasonable.

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      These media outfits have forgotten the old saying “Don’t fuck with people who buy their ink by the barrel.” If these networks got together and started a strategic media campaign against Trump and MAGA, people would be demanding their heads in 8 weeks, even many MAGA followers. They are extremely stupid, ignorant, gullible, and malleable If the media pulled out all the stops, they could convert them easily.

      The problem is, those media companies are becoming owned by conservative companies, and now CBS is owned by Larry Ellison, 2nd richest man, and a vicious Psychopathic MAGA. ABC is owned by Disney, who seems to have no problems appeasing the administration. And NBC is owned by Comcast, a company who consistently places at or near the top of the worst customer service. They clearly don’t care how their customers feel.

      These broadcast companies are perfectly comfortable playing along with, and being media shills for, the MAGA Nazis.

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        I’m not sure why people expected them to do anything else.

        These companies exist to make money not resist fascism. If they can do both that’s great but they will always choose money.

        They have no morals and they don’t care what happens in the world so long as stock ticker goes up. The incentives don’t allow for anything else.

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          A company also has to do whatever they can to protect their markets, and keep them healthy. Participating in a ever growing circle of bribery, intimidation, threats, and escalating demands isn’t going to be good for the market, or the company itself.

          When DeSatan’s hand-picked board took over the governance of Disney world’s property, one of his choices was a church lady, who immediately declared that Disney would be forced to submit all of their movies to the board, who would demand changes before allowing the release. She said it out loud, directly to a reporter, knowing it would be published. She was already making extreme demands.

          Eventually, the government will be approving all programming, which will become extremely boring, and the market will turn away. Perhaps then then these corporate boot-lickers will realize that they would have been better off resisting.

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        They are extremely stupid, ignorant, gullible, and malleable If the media pulled out all the stops, they could convert them easily.

        Except that MAGA is immune to facts and logic. It’s all Fox News/OANN/AmericaFirst or whatever that thing from Steve Bannon is called.

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          Just repeat the fact enough times and it will get in. They’re immune to facts, but not rhetoric.

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      Exactly, spineless fuckers can’t stand their ground at all in the situation where it is known that if you ignore him - he can’t do anything about it.

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    Fucking do it. When the only news feed people have access to is state sponsored Fox News and AI generated MAGA memes on Facebook maybe we’ll get enough people waking up to make a difference.

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      My brother in christ. They are pulling people from the streets. They are re-writing what schools have to teach. They are removing references to an inconvenient history (slavery). They are calling for civil uprising. They are denominating opposing political groups as terrorists.

      If people haven’t snapped out of it now, they definitely won’t when only state sponsored news is on the air.

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      Live in a right wing state…

      They’ll still call it the “Liberal media” any time it says ANYTHING against their world view. Fox is “liberal media” around here.

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      I am not 100% sure about that. I could see some growing quite bored with their options and maybe waking up. I can see some falling into The Algorithm and getting way, way radicalized into more Nazi stuff.

      But yeah, if Taco even takes away the soma, it might be that some people get well and truly pissed. At him. And the Republicans and the conservatives that are destroying this country.