I… what does that even mean?
He is a racial narcissist (and racial fascist) who has narcissistic delusions about race that are his projections of his own insecurity. He gets narcissistic supply from people responding to his delusions as if they are real. Which is why narcissists crave proximity and control so much and are fascists, because their biggest goal in life is to cater and caretake their delusions, not to actually think or do things or be progressive. It’s about the appearance of those things because it was always about narcissistic supply in the first place.
Most white men who are racial narcissists believe in:
- physical narcissism, which they believe black men are superior to them due to eugenics from chattel slavery, including a belief that they are stronger, their dicks are better and they are better at sex (this is a REALLY big deal to them, more than you would realize). This is also why white supremacists wanted to EAT and DID EAT black slaves. It’s also why they have to push narratives that black people are ugly, phrenology, etc. It’s why they are so physically cruel to them - they overabuse them because they are physically insecure.
- intellectual narcissism, which they believe they are superior to black people because of chattel slavery/owning them (aka sadistic and psychopathic abuse, not intellect) and the various white supremacy lies. This is why they don’t like DEI. Again, remember this is projection- it’s their own deepest insecurities they vomit out constantly through delusions.
Then these delusions can be applied to others not even in that group, because it was never based on reality to begin with. That’s why he’s calling white people the n word, he simply wants supply and it doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is rational.
Tldr; Curtis Yarvin believes his own dick is small, he is bad in bed, he is weak, and he is stupid and a bad rich person who made his money like all very rich people - via slavery and theft.
Where I’m lost is does this mean he thinks billionaires are too overly physically prowessed, or because they are insufficiently intellectual?
Fascinating. I never understood why the cuckolding fetish (fixation? obsession?) came with such a strong overlap with, I guess, race play? Feels like a charitable way to put it.
I didn’t believe it at first, but any quick web search will show that cuckolding largely is about the races of the people involved.
Which makes a lot more sense if seen through the framework you just described.
There’s also overlap with power narcissism (“might makes right”, nearly always ties in to physical narcissism and intellectual narcissism), money narcissism (classism), gender narcissism (misogyny), and savior narcissism (the stuff you see in charities and churches, evangelicalism).
And more ofc. There’s no limit to delusions someone can have.
All of that overlaps because there is intersectionality of narcissitic abusers, who then look for victims who safisfy that. We focus a lot of intersectionality of victims and not their abusers. But it’s why Ted Bundy picked young white attractive college girls with long straight dark hair to attack - all of those aspects represent his own narcissistic delusions, they are not the fault or problem of the victim, but of the abuser projecting onto the victim. They look for perfect dolls or teddy bears to project onto. Ted Bundy was otherwise perfectly safe to Anne Rice and most people he encountered because she wasn’t someone he could fully project onto - his narcissistic delusion enforcement wasn’t triggered by her.
So for eg it isn’t so much that Native American women are more likely to be murdered because they are Native women, but that there’s a widespread narcissistic belief set that murdering Native American women is not a concern, so much so that police and media and much of the public ignore it or actively aid it. And now we see this issue magnifying with the deportations - where are all the women? Latinos are just Native Americans who were colonized by Spanish speakers, after all.
But when we focus on abusers instead of the abused, the abusers realize they will get cut off from supply and they have a huge pushback for control.
And yeah it all ties into sexual stuff too
Never really thought of narcissisms in such a plural and mundane way. Is this a school of abnormal psychology or something?
Interesting lens to look through. I’ve always been a sucker for this kind of transactional analysis.
There is something called “collective narcissism,” and a lot of this info is in various studies and works. Here’s one study about gender narcissism: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-020-01193-3
Sure, yeah, but none of that explains what billionaires being “negrous” means? Like something something connect them with the same negative attributes that they keep going on about?
Can white billionaires be “negrous”?
Read again:
Then these delusions can be applied to others not even in that group, because it was never based on reality to begin with. That’s why he’s calling white people the n word, he simply wants supply and it doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is rational.
Okay yeah my bad for trying to look for rationality in racism, true enough.
I know I’m an idiot, but I actually still don’t understand it.
So there is no black people, that are billionaires. So that is not a problem. But he wants there to be a problem. So he just says that they act black. Which is a problem.
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His hatred of blackness is based on a delusion, an unreality, a false narrative. Therefore, it doesn’t actually need to make sense. He just compulsively uses that narrative to either feel 1) validated, smart, amazing, grandiose or 2) hated, a monster, the biggest victim and villain. He can even flip back and forth between these. These feelings are HIGHLY ADDICTIVE* for them, and it is what they prioritize over EVERYTHING ELSE.
So it isn’t about making sense. It is about feeling grandiose and vulnerable. That’s it. It never had anything to do with black people in the first place, because the narratives he has around them werentreal anyway. It was about picking something he could get supply from.
_*Addictions aren’t really real but for the purpose of this conversation, supply is like an addictive drug
ok I’m going to TRY to explain his thinking but I’m likely going to come off as racist trying to explain it.
What he’s saying is there are those who earned their wealth via hard work and all that other bullshit and others that just got it handed to them or give off the impression that they’re insanely wealthy when “they’re not”.
this is what he likely means when he says “n-word rich”. Because this morons impression of wealth in the Black community is via watching music videos and watching reality TV. He’s watched way too many youtube vids about such and such Black music artist or athlete who wears all this “bling” has all these cars and a huge mansion with nothing in it but meanwhile said person is broke. that’s what he means by “n-word rich”.
he could have just said “The problem is the majority of billionaires aren’t actually billionaires. They just think they are.”
That’s what I thought he was saying at first, but that still doesn’t even make any sense though. You are either a billionaire or you are not. I don’t know of anyone who goes around claiming to be a billionaire when they are not, and I could probably name a few who are but never mention it.
Also why would it be a problem? Is he saying there is not enough of a wealth gap? That’s demonstrably false.
And what’s with the nature and function bit?
Sounds to me he’s just spouting hatred to be provocative without any real point.
Some people like to rebrand the n-word as a non-racial term. Pretending that it is not tied to skin color or racism but behavior.
No idea. I do think billionaires are a serious problem and shouldn’t be allowed. Dont care how many business they start. They have the power to buy elections and play games with our entire world so fuck em.
“Profoundly negrous” is fucking crazy man.
Right, and he’s so comfortable with this language. He’s well into living on another planet where phrases like this are common place among his group.
I thought he meant naggers.
Excuse me?
profoundly negrous
This motherfucker is so racist he invented a new term.
It’s 4chan speak, I’ve seen it before.
You need to hang out in better places.
It’s good to lurk and keep an eye on extremist spaces imho. Not good for the mental health, but helpful in intervening/deradicalizing teenagers following down those rabbit holes. Good to also prep counters and debunks to narratives before they take hold.
Like Reddit! /s
While I can understand his syntax, I fail to understand the substance of that sentence.
Now I’m curious how wealth can be utilized in a manner that pertains to African-Americans. Funding sickle cell anemia research?
I think he is basically saying “I think that black people are bad. I also think that some billionaires are bad, but it’s #notallbillionaires . The innate badness that black people have and the bad billionaires have are the same, so I am going to call the bad billionaires black”. In other words, racist bullshit
His “exceptions” are clearly the guy who can’t get through a press conference without rolling on molly (and has dozens of illegitimate children) the guy who talks with a vocal fry and practices “concerned face” in the mirror because he thinks it fools people into thinking he isn’t Patrick Bateman, and the guy who injects the blood of young people and gets stumped when the interviewer asks him if the human race should survive.
So guy 1 is Musk, and guy 3 is Thiel, but who is guy 2?
Altman
N*gga rich is a term used by racists, and co-opted by rappers, to mean getting a small fortune and spending it on flashy ostentatious things.
Oh you mean “new-rich”?
TIL…
I don’t think that’s a neologism. It’s just the adjective to ‘negro’.
Basically he thinks billionaires are ‘behaving black’.
no, it’s not even a word. that wouldn’t even be the adjective to that word.
no, it’s not even a word.
that wouldn’t even be the adjective to that word.
You are right there though. I’m not a native English speaker and thought that would be it. (Sounds like if I’d try to build that adjective in my native language though).
that’s not the word I’m talking about. I’m saying the supposed adjective is not a word. it’s not your fault that you were confused as i said “word” twice referring to different things the Spanish word and the supposed adjective. it’s just that i really don’t want to type any of it so i said “that word” instead not thinking it would be confusing.
You know some csa shithead talked like that.
There is no mask when you’re already ‘Peter Thiel’s bestie’
I find it funny how bad guys in fiction openly expresses that they’re in the dark side. That’s so comical it can’t happen in reality. Right?
Nah, this guy is embracing ”Dark Enlightenment” as his core philosophy.
You start out thinking that the fictional one-dimensional villains are realistic as a kid
Then you grow up and realize that they were just intentionally overdone hyperbole
Then you grow up even more and realize that the fictional one-dimensional villains are very real
the infamous black pill
If you dig deep, Nick Land (coiner of the term “Dark Enlightenment”) draws a lot of influence from Bataille - and specifically fucked up shit written by Bataille. He’s got an article all about the philosophy of the “Story of the Eye” which is basically snuff erotica.
“He has defended the institution of slavery, and has suggested that certain races may be more naturally inclined toward servitude than others.[3][18] He has argued that whites have inherently higher IQs than black people,[18] and opposes U.S. civil rights programs.[19]”
holy fucking hell
and has suggested that certain races may be more naturally inclined toward servitude
Never his race though, that’d be silly.
That limitation actually doesn’t exist. If someone is racist primarily against some group nearby, they may think that some group further from them is better than their own.
Like some Eastern Europeans thinking they are better than Middle-Eastern people, but that Western Europeans are better than them.
In case of that guy - he surely feels right at home in USA where all this is reduced to “White”, “Black” and “Asian”. OK, Middle-Eastern people are sometimes “White” and sometimes “Brown”. Jewish people are usually classified as “White”, which is very convenient.
If you get deep into their subcultures, they get really nitpicky. There are comics where Italians are depicted with the kind of racist features they give to Black people, because some of the people don’t believe that Italians count as white.
Da fuk is dat
Bro really needs to work on his smirksneer. Every white supremacist anarcho-capitalist needs one. You’re not going to impress those high-IQ bigots or attract the high-value females unless your smirksneer is on point, and this guy’s is just mid, at best. Low effort, sloppy.
Yarvin has been described as a “neo-reactionary”, “neo-monarchist” and “neo-feudalist”
I’ve seen this for hardcore libertarian. They have one of the most unhinged subreddits. Their mod Derpballz was rather prolific is showing up to random communities with that BS. Bro is currently ban evasion as Irresolution.
“neo-monarchist” “hardcore libertarian” I love it when people have coherent views which aren’t self-contradictory.
There’s a version of libertarianism where if you rightfully (via all-voluntary process) own a piece of land and make a kingdom there, or create a network of agreements leading to monarchy, it’s fine.
The issue is that you can never own territory fully logically rightfully by even Rothbard, so you only can have a voluntary monarchy without territory cause territory is inherently commonly owned, or owned by nobody. A group of people needing some territory to live on can claim as much as they need, but one person who wants to have a kingdom on it - nah. And a voluntary monarchy is not much different from a BDSM orgy, you can have it right now if everybody agrees.
So bog standard ancap is incompatible with this, but there are a few kinds of fascists (or “paleo-libertarians”) who have a set of ideas which isn’t.
Mississippi’s Letter of Secession on slavery:
Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun.
and people wonder why i don’t want to use urbit
Behold, the master race
He looks like even the mirror bullies him
He looks like he’s failing to pretend that burn didn’t hurt.
Same as it ever was.
Göring was monstrously fat by 1940’s standards.
What a definitive neckbeard good LORD.
The most benevolent reading of his idea here is that the rich are shallow and are content with the base material satisfactions afforded them by wealth, as opposed to using their wealth for some kind of greatness.
That’s it. That’s the whole idea.
So this is the wise sage of the dark enlightenment? This is the intellectual colossus shaping the thinking of the new tech elite?
There is nothing there. Any random village priest (or small town pastor for you yanks) has more intellectual depth in their Sunday sermon than this.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMLJh0SRz9o/ this is my favourite review of the latest Superman and I believe says it even more directly than the tweet
Omg! this was unexpectedly good!! I almost stopped watching after the first minute thinking it’s another “hollywood movie nerd” talking about imaginary superheros that fly and shoot lazers from their eyes… Then suddenly my guy “the hollywood movie nerd” switched to real mode really quick just before you thought you could sleep on him! This guy! that was awesome!
I thought the movie was ok, but it triggering right wing nutjobs is hilarious.
How is it that the weirdest dudes keep ending up with so much power and influence. Like, this is just bigoted shit obviously, but it’s weird bigoted shit. What is it about people that makes them look at a weirdo freak (derogatory) like this and think “this is a man I need to have direct the entirety of my belief system going forward”?
Social media has accelerated this. No one would know who this guy was in the 90s, for example.
I have zero idea who he is. Or Thiel for that matter …
Well, they are actively trying to enslave and kill you, so maybe learn
Look it up. By now it’s borderline neglect to not know about them.
Success is awarded to the confident. You can be an absolute weird idiot and still, in the right circumstances, get massive success just because people assume there’s a reason you seem so confident, and who are they to second guess that confidence?
Confidence is often mistaken for competence. I’d like to believe that’s why “con(fidence) men” are ever successful.
That’s literally the only reason Trump is where he is. He’s not actually good at anything.
I think a part of it is you have to be weird to want to chase power. Normal people aren’t thinking 24/7 about how they can leap frog their way into power
The other part is that normal people as party of a well functioning society need to actively maintain systems that keep fuckwits from accumulation to much power, and we haven’t been doing that.
Useful idiots. There needs to be somebody who stands in front of the crowd and takes the blame. That person must be weird enough that people don’t keep following once the support is removed.
Then they decide to get makeovers or permanent eyeliner like that’s supposed to make up for all the other weird shit?
Yeah, why can’t they just be a weirdo freak (celebratory) like the rest of us anarchists?
Honestly, there’s no real decoding this. There’s no hidden messages or trying to see the underlying logic.
I’m guessing they’ve either got a little cult where they’ve given specific meaning to this little phrase, or it’s just as dumb as it sounds and makes no sense.
I’m guessing it makes no sense on account of the it not making sense.
(I read the tweet)
Mother of God…
(I read his Wikipedia page)
Oh, this is actually mild by his standards, my goodness…
I highly recommend the Behind the Bastards episode on him
I watched that on your recommendation. Turns out he’s just an old Usenet troll that spent to much time in his own head and started to believe his own bullshit. What’s baffling to me is how he became so influential.
Can we please go back to a time when psychos like this guy were largely irrelevant?
I hate the internet sometimes.
They were more numerous and loud when they were largely irrelevant.
But the times were nice, yes.
But - I’ve looked for Urbit and it’s interesting. It’s very close to what I’d consider useful.
IMHO a p2p system of the future should work as one user group being one democratically controlled system (like OS with its resources and entities) with computation and storage distributed between member nodes. The reason I’m not too interested in that idea is that it’s about global Internet and global availability. Today delay-tolerant offline-enabled applications seem more historically relevant.
I’m middle aged now, but I have to admit, while I’ve always known there was racism still around, and still part of the government. I’m blown away though at just how much more of it, and how deeply rooted it is. The kind of people in charge right now are literal cartoon villains when I was a kid.
I mean that literally.
I’m blown away though at just how much more of it, and how deeply rooted it is.
Same. Same. I’m feeling like I must live in a bubble (nobody around me is like that) and also that it was also always there, they’re just more comfortable taking their masks off right now. It’s depressing.
On the flip side though the people I have around me are mostly family and my kids. I have zero social time beyond that at the moment. Two of my kids besties are not white so I’m at least absolutely sure I’m raising my kids to not be racist pieces of shit. It’s something.
I genuinely expected that tweet to be a “you had me in the first half”. Like the naggers scene in south park. Fuck that guy. Absolute filth.
Nah, blatant racism isn’t much a thing anymore. It’s the systemic racism that is turning out sticky.
I’m in the South and haven’t heard N, or any other slur, in ages. Confederate flags are rare enough to make my blood boil when I see one.
I’m also in the South and have a very different experience.
You’re not where I am in the South then. Lots of flags here. Not sure why people don’t get asses kicked over it like in other places.
Blatant racism is a thing, especially online and in gaming. They are literally building a whites-only town in Arkansas.
The areas of the US that mainly were oppressing Native Americans have colorblindness as their main mode of racism, bc they were trying to genocide Natives. So never allowing talk of race and forcing assimilation is what colorblindness is.
The areas of the US that had more black slaves have more explicit blatant racism, because the entire point in the past was to grow the black slave population and keep them in their place.
Rec book Conquest: Sexual Violence and American Indian Genocide, and/or Heteropatriarchy and the 3 Pillars of White Supremacy to learn more.
Well that’s heartening. Thanks.
They are making shit up. There’s a whites only town being made in Arkansas right now and the legal system is allowing it there. There is actively a racist genocide happening of Latinos by this government. Kids and adults both yell the nword in games and even on a hacked Roomba. This one guy refusing to believe in racism is just his own racism, don’t buy into it.
It’s not as bad as social media makes out. I’ve seen more racism in Manhattan and Chicago than down here.
When I moved to the South, black people often gave me the evil eye. Never had that happen before! Really woke to how angry they must feel when hit with random, senseless racism.
Anyway, haven’t felt that in almost 20-years.
Same, I find it genuinely shocking and very different from 10 years ago.
Trump was literally depicted as a villain on Sesame Street in the 80s btw.
I’m pretty sure he also was the inspiration for more than one Captain Planet villain.
He was a cartoon villain even to the people who love him now before 2015. Then he was mean to the people they hated, and dignified their basest impulses. After that, they’d follow him to the gates of hell.
Is that real?! I remember them poking fun at Trump now and again as he was a national laughing stock.
Yes, there was a whole running narrative about bill the cat having his brain replaced with trumps back in the 80’s. my now completely crazy, maga dad, turned me on to bloom county as a kid so most of my politics likely took root with a large nosed penguin and his friends. Then when I hit high school, I found rage against the machine.
But yeah, I never watched any of his reality shows, this is the turnip I knew, until he became the actual president. My brain has not recovered.
Oh god, I remembering a bit! Was following the daily release of Bloom Country when lemm.ee shut down. To this day, I can’t think of a more perfect snapshot of 80’s life. Anyone wanting to know what it was really like, read Bloom Country front to back.
Hard agree.
Black people: “Why am I in this?”
At what point do we start tagging him with “racist sympathizer Peter Thiel”?
Is there any point in doing that? All these guys are openly racist, anti-democracy and anti-america. Enemies of the state by definition (a state which is almost entierly under their control by now). We’re way beyond calling out on racism.
And all my neighbors are still on board with Trump. Drives me nuts.
En masse, as soon as we can.
Ok, i reconstruct the slur in my mind and…what the fuck is that even mean? It sounds like another one of those word salad by intoxicated individual that mean absolutely nothing but also trying to be profoundly racist.
Fascists have no subatance, no interiority.
He’s saying billionaires spend their money ostentatiously, foolishly, lavishly like they never saw money before. “New rich” would be a comparable term.
Still, not sure I completely get it.
In a spectacular display of racist logic this chud is saying that black people aren’t supposed to have inherited wealth, therefore all rich black people are nouveau riche (new rich). Which means that what they are saying is that spending with abandon is something only a newly rich black person would do.
So like covering everything with gold and putting your name in giant allcaps on them?
Still, not sure I completely get it.
Same. One legitimate criticism of how rich people interact with the economy is that rich people have a tendency to hoard their money instead of pumping it back into the economy. Spending all your dough may look tacky and ostentatious, but it creates more jobs than piling it up in a vault.
So this guy’s thinking is contorted in fascinating ways. I am starting to wonder, though, does being a bad thinker make you more likely to be racist? Or does racism harm your thinking? Both?
Spending all your dough may look tacky and ostentatious, but it creates more jobs than piling it up in a vault.
Won’t somebody think of the mega-yacht industry?!
I think you have to go several levels of racism deep to even understand it. Like the (censored) phrase “I don’t hate black people; I hate N-----s” has to make enough sense you understand the “distinction” being made. Then you translate that distinction and apply it to some sort of “good billionaire” and you sort of get his claim.
I think?
I certainly could have missed his point, if any; I’m not sure it was worth catching.
Replace the word with “inferior.” Now you understand what a racist means when they say it.
