there’s more than shown here and it’s more than just these users too 😭

if you find the thread don’t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe don’t bring it back here i don’t want 400 notifications of entry level “is almond milk milk” vegan discourse

  • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    “I’ve been sober all day.” is my new comeback when someone insults my intelligence in an argument.

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        Bringing this full circle, it reminds me of a time I saw an entire long Reddit chain nuked by a mod who was astounded that people indulged the “Europeans never ate beans before Columbus and if you call that thing that originally came from Eurasia a bean, you’re wrong” guy for so long.

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    this is 1/100th of the insanity that happened on the reddit sub r/milk
    I’m pretty sure there was a riot because the mods said almond milk was allowed or something like that

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    You: hates milke because it is unethical

    Me: hates milk because it is fucking disgusting.

    We are not the same

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      me fr: hates milk because IT CURDLES SO FAST WHAT THE HELL JUST LET ME DRINK IT I BOUGHT THIS YESTERDAY

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        Had this start happening and got a new fridge, didn’t happen anymore. Do your veggies also spoil quickly? If so, your fridge likely be bork.

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          i’m exaggerating quite a bit but hope this comment is helpful for others who might be struggling with time traveling milk!

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            It was wild, would buy milk and a couple days later it was chunky. Fridge always felt cool. When the veggies started spoiling on a similar time scale we decided it was best to replace, thankfully had a solid landlord.

            The next time I had a bad fridge it would freeze things randomly. Milk and lettuce would freeze, but stuff next to it was fine. Figured it was haunted, bought a new one as at this point I was my own landlord.

            Moral of the story, refrigerant leaks are no joke and can do weird shit.

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              omg that sounds awful i feel so blessed to have never had these refrigerator woes 🙀

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    I would just like to bring up that most equestrians don’t farm their horses milk. Without demand it would probably be similar

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    I won’t be able to find it now but I found an excellent copy pasta on a milk related post about RFK Jr.

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    Was gonna make a blizzard joke here, but this person is so intellectual that they wouldn’t get the low-grade humor, or how milk production before markets only works if everyone works a single farm, and cannot work if the population is scaled up.

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    Imagine answering a question with another question.

    I’d ask if everyone here is just looking to be annoyed at the slightest thing but it shows, like, all around

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    Ah yeah, I’ve had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo… ideal discussion partner right there.

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      politely raises hand

      While I think factory farming is abhorrent, I find the most compelling reasons to eat plant-based to be the environmental ones. Therefore, I think “I only eat a little bit of meat” is actually a huge positive step someone can take. If your primary concern regarding meat is the cruelty of taking the life of another animal, that’s completely valid, but compared to the others, that square just feels out of place.

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      The “Vegans are loud and annoying” crowd are more loud and annoying than actual vegans in my personal experience.

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        Often when society had an extreme default position on a topic, its defenders sound batshit insane.

        See:

        • Gay and trans rights
        • Reproductive rights
        • Veganism
        • Unregulated capitalism
        • Homelessness
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        So true. I’m not vegan, but someone proudly yelling about how much meat they eat is so fucking cringe. Very “suck it, libs” mindset.

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        But you probably won’t get called a murderer 20 seconds into the discussion though.

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          You’d be surprised. Both “The farming of your plants kills more animals than livestock raising” and “veganism is genocide because they’ll stop breeding the animals if we stop eating them” unironocally come up almost instantly when I talk about it and I’m not even quite vegan, I just avoid animal products because of allergies to a lot of them…

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      It took me a whole 24 hours to realise that the person having a weird, inconsistent, fact-swerving argument with me (about my assertion that most male cattle are killed young for meat) was the original one from the screenshot!

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        My last time talking to them, they were arguing that the use of the word “exploitation” in the vegan society’s definition of veganism simply meant “use” because that’s a thesaurus entry for exploitation. When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.

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        Unequivocally, yes you are, and at that, you’re one of the most agonizingly stubborn and disinformed ones I’ve ever talked to.

        Edit: Sharing this conversation here in the context of them being banned from /c/vegan so users can understand how completely full of shit this user is (yes, their actual argument they started at /c/vegan is that vegans starting from a position of “humans have rights” is a flawed position to start from and thus invalidates their argument for veganism):

        Conversation between commie and I after they were banned

        Edit 2: Oh, and they have this thing where they like to reply to a single comment with several comments while claiming it’s because they “don’t want to engage in a Gish gallop” (paraphrased), meanwhile facilitating a Gish gallop by making an unfollowable branching tree of comments.

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          your link shows the same as the op thread: I’m primarily interested in a factual, scientifically accurate discussion.

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            My link shows that you’re interested in muddying the waters by either intentionally spreading disinformation or by speaking with absolute confidence about subjects you clearly lack the capacity to understand even the most fundamental principles of.

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                You grasp the subject so much that you’re too fucking stupid to understand the most basic facets of supply and demand that a literal 10-year-old could understand. lmao okay

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                  I’m still unsure whether they actually believe what they are saying makes any kind of sense and could actually be deemed a rational thought or whether they are just pulling our legs. Either way, engaging in any kind of discussion with them should probably just be avoided

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      The happy animals one is hilarious. I would have no problem with someone eating me after I died and I sure as shit am not happy

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        When I was a young vegling, I spent some time doing “outreach” on r/DebateAVegan (air quotes because it often felt about as impactful as having a wank), and you’d see those bingo arguments being used earnestly ALL THE TIME.

        I actually did occasionally get some fairly novel and thought provoking stuff, from time to time, but mostly it was explaining the basics of biology or econ to people like in OP’s example.